Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Discussion

Kels0012 wrote:

Cocoasneeze wrote:I just saw Vanessa like Sharleen's picture. I don't get the issue here, what was supposed to have happened between Nick, Vanessa and Sharleen?

I personally think nothing happened between them and people are just trying to explain a reason why N/V broke up. My guess is the distance and unwilling to compromise. IMO.

Please let's be clear that my observation is not anything that happened or any one particular thing but I do think...this wedding is the straw that broke the camel's back and there is no way V intended on attending. I do get it, though.

I'm glad Nick apparently spent a great deal of the week catching up with friends who support him and care about him. I think he definitely needed it.

Kels0012 wrote:

Cocoasneeze wrote:I just saw Vanessa like Sharleen's picture. I don't get the issue here, what was supposed to have happened between Nick, Vanessa and Sharleen?

I personally think nothing happened between them and people are just trying to explain a reason why N/V broke up. My guess is the distance and unwilling to compromise. IMO.

I don't think anything happened between Vanessa & Sharleen, just that it was odd that Nick and Sharleen are so close and Nick also got close with Andy, and there wasn't any evidence (at least from what I saw, & I didn't follow them that closely so I could be wrong) that all 4 ever hung out altogether. I don't think that's why they broke up, just more evidence of things wrong with that relationship IMO.

mprssdbyu wrote:

mistygracie74 wrote:Sorry, but can someone explain about Nick, Vanessa, Sharleen? Little confused here, thanks!

Misty, I'll provide my insight as I am the one who brought it up after observing. It's my opinion, please remember that. Until we have confirmation, it is not fact and that may never come. With that being said.

Sharleen and Nick are very close. They have been for several years now. Sharleen is also friends with Andi Dorfman (aka MeAndi). MeAndi lives in NY and often spends time with Sharlene. Anyway, MeAndi is the first girl as far as TB goes that Nick fell in love with. God help him...but moving on as this is not about her per se....I don't think V wanted to be a part of or associated with that part of Nick's life in a nutshell. It's not part of her love story and Nick was her forever. It's hard to explain. But being a lifelong friend with Nick as I can't see it any other way, it's just one of the things V would have to endure and IMO...she wanted no part of anything relating to Andi. Too much history there. I reached that conclusion after observing V's lack of acknowledgement towards Sharlene. Again, it had nothing to do with Sharlene. I hope that makes it a little more clear as to where my thoughts lie on the subject.

I see what you're saying and I actually tend to agree...at least in the sense that I think it's possible that Nick's association to that part of his past would only add another layer of angst in Nick and Vanessa's already angst-ridden situation. As much as I do believe that Vanessa is a confident person who knows her own self-worth, she has also proven herself to be an emotional person and so if she doesn't feel completely comfortable with a certain scenario then she has no problems voicing her opinions on the matter and it's possible that maybe she was a little uncomfortable with the idea of Nick always being associated with a certain period of his Bachelor past thanks to his friendship with Sharleen. I can imagine Vanessa thinking "when will it end?" given that I'm sure that she still had feelings about her time on the show and was still trying to get over re-watching Nick make-out with a bunch of women while he was falling in love with her. I don't believe there was one factor that caused the break-up; I think there was a combination of a bunch of things that piled up over-time to the point where it became too much for Nick and Vanessa to emotionally handle. Being a Bachelor couple is not easy and when you have a past like Nick's (in that world) combined with two strong personalities who are open and honest and are clearly not okay with the weirdness of their situation, I think that it makes everything ten times harder to deal with and I can see the PTSD of their experience on the show, both before they met and afterwards, being one of many factors for why they ultimately broke up.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] You said it much better than I did. I think V's capability of going from 1-100 in the blink of an eye was tough to navigate for Nick. Nick can talk anyone off a ledge IMO but he just could not reach V in the end...not enough to forever calm high tide in his mind.

With that being said, as time passes and the distance becomes greater, I can actually see them becoming true friends.

I just caught Nick's latest insta story. I think he and Michael G may actually be two of Andy's groomsmen. Now my next question is....who are her bridesmaids?

Considering the timing of N&V' s breakup, it makes me think that perhaps Nick wanted to be free to attend the wedding alone and in peace. JMO

I don't think anyone's going to be able to figure out the reason for their breakup based on social media activity. It's not like either of these two were caught talking to an ex or spotted in a compromising position at a public place. I say this because I don't think there's any third party, and I'm not comfortable dragging Sharleen's name into this. I think it simply boils down to incompatibility and having different priorities... Sometimes the official statement given to the media may be the truth. Just sayin'.

Jane781 wrote:I've seen Vanessa like several of Sharleen's pictures. Most recently the ones from her Bachelorette party and the one she posted today. Sharleen also would comment on Vanessa's pics sometimes and I think there was some back and forth there. I personally don't think Nick's relationship with Sharleen was a sticking point in he and Vanessa's relationship. Sharleen has maintained separate relationships with Nick and Andi for years.

Absolutely agree. Sharleen and Vanessa have had quite a few easy going comments back and forth on each other's posts. One that comes to mind is the pic on Vanessas post of her and Nick 'soaking up some LA sun like a couple of G's'
IMO Sharleen had nothing to do with this break up. Is there proof they never met up while Sharleen and Andy were in LA? I know there are instances where they've met with other bach couples and we only know from fan pics. Nothing documented from themselves.
And there's always FaceTime etc.

It Imo just simply boils down to their personalities not meshing well. And that really isn't Nick and Vanessa's fault, you can't change who you are, what makes you tick. Despite their initial attraction, they didn't seem like good friends, and I think they just clashed. It happens, and there's no one to blame often times. Jmo

I don't get the big deal - nick doesn't even follow some of vanessa's friends.

And not meeting/going to things seem normal for nick and vanessa. They missed his sister's vihaviall's baby shower, peta and maks' wedding etc. Not sure why sharleen is singled out. According to the podcast in vanessa's thread, and vanessa's beyonce tweets, there was trouble long before nick went to sharleens bridal shower.

crunchycheeto wrote:I don't think anyone's going to be able to figure out the reason for their breakup based on social media activity. It's not like either of these two were caught talking to an ex or spotted in a compromising position at a public place. I say this because I don't think there's any third party, and I'm not comfortable dragging Sharleen's name into this. I think it simply boils down to incompatibility and having different priorities... Sometimes the official statement given to the media may be the truth. Just sayin'.

Sigh, my observations have nothing to do with Sharlene. It's not about Sharlene at all. I'm sorry that got lost in translation in my posts. IMO, it is the media attention brought about by a confidant of Sharlene's and Nick's history with a former love story that happened long ago. For whatever reason, V never acknowledged the friendship. Sharlene reached out several times through comments to always include her very high opinion of V. Sharlene is all class all the time, IMO.

So according to Calia Quinn's IG story and Kelly Travis's IG story the following people are at Sharleen's wedding ceremony, sitting in this order: Calia, Michael, Chris Soules, Andi, Nick, Kelly and her husband Hunter.

Let's just hope that Nicks fondness for going home with someone at a wedding doesn't apply tonight...

Also, who knew Sharleen and Chris S were friends.