Bachelor Australia - Season 5 - Matty Johnson - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

mercieme wrote:@solaroo....just a clarification question; what do you mean by Laura has been treated unfairly? If based on SM I think the opinions are mixed for her similar to the other girls but it's not that bad IMO. I think Alex had the worst edit ever and that's one person that was actually treated unfairly by the producers. And if you mean on this forum, I think the posters here per forum rule are entitled to their opinions of Laura, which again I don't believe it's all that bad from what I have read but I guess we all see things differently...all jmho.

Hi @mercieme . By being treated unfairly, I guess I just meant judged unfairly. And absolutely agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion about how they saw that, that's what is so great about these forums is we can see how differently people view the same footage. I love that and it's really important to take everything on board! But I've noticed quite a few people on SM who have reacted negatively to that incident at the CP have called her out for appearing 'entitled', 'arrogant' and 'full of herself' for trying to assert that there was an order to go in. Maybe they just don't like her so much, which is fine, but IMO I thought going in order to have time with Matty was actually a very civilized idea. It's a notion we try to instill in children from a young age. Just my opinion, obviously, but I think she copped some flak for it which was a bit undeserved looking at the bigger picture. All, humbly, JMO.

LeapofFaith wrote:@Storybook IA. We are half way now and it looks like Matty is Lauras to loose imo.  However It also looks like the second half of the season Laura doesn't get much time with him at all and its all Elise,Tara and Flo?  So perhaps this brings on Lisa and Laura crying because they seem to be left behind in the end as others move past them as front runners? JMO

Anyway did you happen to ask your son if he heard anything about who is the F1?????

This is very interesting thought process @LeapofFaith.  I have never really watched a lead stop all pursuit of their suppose favourites? If you are correct in thinking that Laura does not get anymore time with Matty in the end part of the season then i would have to side eye him a bit AJMHO

BabyGotBach wrote:

LeapofFaith wrote:@Storybook IA. We are half way now and it looks like Matty is Lauras to loose imo.  However It also looks like the second half of the season Laura doesn't get much time with him at all and its all Elise,Tara and Flo?  So perhaps this brings on Lisa and Laura crying because they seem to be left behind in the end as others move past them as front runners? JMO

Anyway did you happen to ask your son if he heard anything about who is the F1?????

This is very interesting thought process @LeapofFaith.  I have never really watched a lead stop all pursuit of their suppose favourites? If you are correct in thinking that Laura does not get anymore time with Matty in the end part of the season then i would have to side eye him a bit AJMHO

LeapofFaith said it doesn't look like Laura gets much screen time in the second half of the season, but not that Laura does not get any more time. Time spent with Matty is based on the season introduction and working out who the women are. It is known for sure Laura does spend more time with Matty and they kiss. When and where this date takes place in still unknown. But any more dates for Laura haven't been shown.

@LeapofFaith IA at this stage the win is Laura's to lose. But I wonder if after next week things might change?

Guys, we are only going by the season promo SCs and it is correct that Laura only has one SC remaining which some have postulated could be the F3 date if that takes place in Sydney.

The SCs have unfailingly told the story as far as I have been sleuthing the series but we are due another set of SCs in a couple of weeks and should be interesting what we figure out from the new set. So it is possible that even if Laura has more time with Matty, the producers may choose not to show us, maybe because they want to deliberately mislead because Laura has it in the bag as some believe or maybe they are truly going to show the development of another relationship that rivals what Laura has with Matty now. We will see but I can't remember who was the poster that said their husband works in television and that they never show us everything, only what they want us to perceive. I do agree with this and IMO the producers will muddle things up starting next week...all jmho.

Storybook wrote:@LeapofFaith IA at this stage the win is Laura's to lose. But I wonder if after next week things might change?

IMO it looks like things will change and Elise and Tara look like they may shoot to the front i'll be watching with eagerness but also will have my eyes and ears(for that 1st kiss music) open

I think Laura must get a 2nd 1-on-1 because it would be implausible for her to F1 without it IMO. Aussie Bach winner have always had at least 2 SDs

Laura still has a chance to get a 2nd single date in Episodes 11 & 12 IMO but there are still many SCs that we have left that have to fit in those 2 episodes.

We know that Episode 13 is the F5 to F4 date so no SDs and Episode 14 is the HTDs.

LeapofFaith wrote:

Storybook wrote:@LeapofFaith IA at this stage the win is Laura's to lose. But I wonder if after next week things might change?

IMO it looks like things will change and Elise and Tara look like they may shoot to the front i'll be watching with eagerness but also will have my eyes and ears(for that 1st kiss music) open

IA re Tara and Elise. I am still getting over the shock of hearing the first chords of the 'F1 kiss music' on Matty's date with Alex. She was eliminated the next episode!!! And what was with the over the top dramatic kiss music with Elora???

@mercieme that might have been me.  I was asking him why we haven't seen much of Elise if there are screen caps of them having spent time together and she hasn't even had a date yet and he thinks they don't want us to know as it might be too obvious.   Anyway we'll find out soon enough.  I also asked about how much say he would have in dates etc and he thinks that he'd have most of the say but the producers are there on the peripheral making suggestions   don't forget they want good TV and they don't want us to know the result yet anyway. Otherwise we won't watch!

Thanks @dolcimumma for confirming that

I love having the insights from folks that actually understand what's going behind the scenes and your husband confirmed what Matty said about how the dates come about as well

@mercieme Also.... someone has sleuthed up in the F1-F4 no discussion thread that in the season preview it looks like Laura has the F3 position based on the screen caps they have sleuthed from other seasons matching this one's preview. Not sure what to think of it but check it out girls.