Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

Skates wrote:

ukglasgowkiiss wrote:

Skates wrote:

I totally agree!! Lol!!

Oh you mean this turtleneck:  
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRDznEogtaF/
@pacozero ig account.

There is a certain hands off signal, no mixed messages there. In fact i swear i saw him wearing a scarf over his turtleneck at one point.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcIL19MQDI       (Afterbuzz)

  @ 14:58 Their talks about Nick having sex in FS  -  @ 23:45 How they see Raven and Vanessa with Nick  -  @ 28:20 about Vanessa moving  -  @ 30:00 Jared wishing Nick and Vanessa to be happy

Lisa wrote:

Skates wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
So true. It's so predictable  IMO. Sure there are exceptions but pretty much all F1 edits showcase doubt around this part of the show and that's their edit and obstacles are showcased for the F1 and lead to overcome.

I have yet to see where that doesn't typically happen and not just for the US shows but all the International franchises as well. The recent Bette AU season the F1 had their FD edited to discussing how living in the same city was a potential problem    It was so ridiculous and obvious that it was a made up obstacle to try cast doubt because their connection was beyond obvious from day one, just like Vanessa and Nick when Nick said Vanessa's a "keeper".


With Vanessa and Nick, they do have the obstacle of distance but seriously, so many of the other leads/F1's do as well and while they are from different countries, I have no doubt that if Vanessa was not F1 they wouldn't be making a big deal out of it just like they're not making a big deal out of Raven being from Hoxie (as if Nick would ever be moving to Hoxie Heck, he'd moved to Montreal over Hoxie in a heartbeat, IMO).

- IMO - I think when Mills talk about Raven being an easy relationship for Nick, and Vanessa as hard relationship but in a good way, maybe Mills is not implying anything other than giving an understatement that there will be a lot of challenges for Nick to work out the relationship...if Mills has emphasized it as being hard in a good way, I think it is a good sign...the thing is as based on Nick's personalities...he likes women who can challenge him...thus, if we look at it closely...Vanessa is more suited to him more so than Raven...I think Nick will get bored of Raven eventually in the long run... Raven, I feel is a little bit guarded as based on her own confessions...she doesn't communicate her feelings as much as she is supposed to be...to make a relationship work, the couple has to be open and honest about their feelings...I cannot imagine how Raven can survive a relationship for 18 years without loving the guy... and without having an org***...I am not condoning what the guy has done to her is right...but, I am simply just stating the fact with the non-existence of love in the relationship that could partly also be one of the reasons for the guy to go astray... - IMO -

I saw from an episode last night of Melissa's confession on her relationship to Jason...the interviewer asked her if she had loved Jason...she said, no and she didn't have any interest on finding out what Jason was doing on anything...thus, the failed relationship... but, they broke up in few short months...but, for 18 years, there should have been some developments in their feelings for each other during the years they have been together...not unless they are in it together just for the benefits... - JMO -

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