Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

Personally, disliking someone is a waste of my energy, so best is to ignore if possible, JMO. So for that alone, I hope Rachel can move on (after all these months that she doesn't need to share space with Vanessa anymore) and simply ignore who she doesn't like and IMO it's in her best interest to not "give satisfaction" to who wants to feed off negativity, because it fires back sometimes. She can and has every right to not like Vanessa if that does her any good, JMO.

As of the fight/disagreement, it's so much yada yada yada from a 3rd person to the 4th that despite reading through those RS lines I still don't know anything more than what I knew at the beginning of the season, except that by now I've formed my own opinion of the women, and the gossip hasn't changed that. So nothing to talk about - all IMO.

I'm interested for the cold/hot bath ... and the conversation of all degrees.

Dessler wrote:

coolangel wrote:

Dessler wrote:I honestly think both of these women are great. The "fans" should stop asking if someone likes the other or not. What does it matter to them? if "the fans" think they truly know any of these contestants and they like them that is all that should matter IMO.  Just too many examples of these questions that get on my nerves. They are also asked who Raven's friends are and then took offence to her saying that she has  only 7 friends from the show. I mean if you ask someone a question, you might get an answer that you don't like. JMO

IMO fans will always ask these questions. It's nothing new IMO. IMO Contestants should know what to respond to and how to respond without starting fan wars. They could ignore the questions easily. It's not a live interview that they are put in the spot and can't get out of it without saying something. All JMO.

The live instagram was a no win situation for them IMO, according to what was reported here it seemed like the viewers were not sure if Rachel/Alexis answered the question and kept asking about it repeatedly so much so that someone pointed out that they were ignoring the question and jumped into conclusion that they did not like her.

And I am positive that if they had said "No comment" it will mean the same thing that they don't like her because it is infact a yes or no question because any other answer will lead to the same conclusion or she will have to lie. JMO

No comment is still no comment...it is not an affirmation...the most they could have said is we are not that close so I am not sure if I'll like her or not...

During the Ellen's Show interview, when Rachel say 'His loss' on Nick...I don't feel Rachel as being confident on herself...I feel it more like a petty strike back to Nick on choosing Vanessa who she thinks is a biotch instead of her...I find Rachel too proud of herself after being dumped...if this is a natural setting, I would take her words as great comment... but, since their associations are just 2 months with random girls in between...I don't think the time is enough for her to justify those words...Rachel turns out to me as more like a sore loser than a feminist who is trying to justify her feeling of being dumped... -JMO-

I have watched Corinne during an interview after she has been booted off the show...she has came across more likable and more grown up by not saying anything bad about Nick or his F1...

*EDIT* The comment on Ellen look like a witty banter.  Did she also say she was not confident in her self???  She is an adult and can say or do anything she wants.  **EDIT**

Kashathediva wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote:Don't most couples end up with with an agent or or person of some sort to sort out and deal with all the offers they get?

Not saying she is or isn't in it for the money and fame, but not ready yet to tar and feather her either.  

JMO

It's prob. the smart thing to do. IMO Let someone else who is versed in this deal with it. The couple has to deal with a lot of promo, interviews etc. It's a lot easier to hire someone to deal with all that crap than deal with it yourself.

I don't think Vanessa is in anyway interested to be in the entertainment industries for the money/fame as she would have been more interested in it for fun...Vanessa has been very focus on education...she has finished 2 university degrees...that in itself is impressive...if she is that interested with showbiz, her best shot would have been Degrassi High, -IMO- she would have been a part of it already--I think it would have been easy for her to get in because of her TV exposures, but I think she is just happy working as extras to meet bigger celebrities...

Currently, if she can explore it just to get something, I think she is more than likely happy to have it as part-time... - IMO - she may want to go back to teaching or she may establish a foundation that will support or help the special needs in achieving their dreams, she'll be able to help those who are close to her heart (her students as well)...or...if she has enough resources...I think she will go for the second options...

reason wrote:*EDIT* The comment on Ellen look like a witty banter.  Did she also say she was not confident in her self???  She is an adult and can say or do anything she wants.  **EDIT**

People who say those words are people who are confident... it doesn't imply anything about her not being confident...thus, she has to say it...it just -IMO- it comes across as a petty banter rather than witty....because the situations and settings are different, the guy has met her for 2 months... they have couple of dates....the guy has dumped her because he simply is not interested...he probably won't feel her loss...and the timing has been before her declaration of disliking Vanessa, with the squad backing her up.... and some of these girls bashing on Nick...

I don't know how you'll see the whole picture.... but, I take it as a petty comment, and not witty because of the aftermath... if there's no hassles or these drama happening, I will take it as a joke or a witty banter...

IMO this discussion of Rachel needs to go in her thread. This is a place to discuss Vanessa.

I see the whole picture, it was a joke said with a smile. I still have it tape.

Diana wrote:IMO this discussion of Rachel needs to go in her thread. This is a place to discuss Vanessa.

Yes!!!

So, if they broke up already, you think Vanessa needs to get her IG verified? I think the verification is in preparation for all the upcoming publicity tours and events....
Keep my fingers crossed!

Diana wrote:One of the main reasons I believe N & V are still together is happy Vanessa seems. She is glowing IMO


https://www.instagram.com/p/BRJa4ElB10e/?taken-by=vanessagrimaldi30

If Vanessa is going to shill, she should start now because I want to know where she got her leather backpack and her parka as wel as her wedge heel black boots.

^ wait, is that the same outfit she had in Finland?

Could be similar, I believe the one she had on in Finland had white buttons in the front.