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Re: Bachelor In Paradise - Season 4 - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Props to the publicist for doing what he/she feels is right. It is the publicist's right to get rid of a client if they feel the client is not heeding their advice or even going against the contract they may have.
I said when all this broke that this whole situation would probably be more interesting than the actual show would have been. Still looking that way.
I said when all this broke that this whole situation would probably be more interesting than the actual show would have been. Still looking that way.
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Re: Bachelor In Paradise - Season 4 - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
One of the biggest mistakes PR novices make when growing reputation and client roster is taking on any client who is willing to pay, without paying heed to any red flags. Inevitably, both parties end up frustrated. Even when initial intentions are positive, the ramp-up time and earned media aspects of PR can lead to tension. Sometimes when the client values don’t match yours, and especially when client expectations are unethical, the best thing to do is cut lose, take the monetary hit, and learn from the experience. But how do you know if firing a client is the right thing to do? Here are eight signs it’s time to let a client go.
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Re: Bachelor In Paradise - Season 4 - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
Kels0012 wrote:What is the point in revealing the producers names? RS is just inciting trolling and harrassment of them IMO. Confirms to me that TPTB are feeding Steve his intel.
There really isn't a point. RS has now named the alleged victim, alleged perpetrator and 2 complainants in an investigation that may or not end up warranting further legal action.
RS has not seen the filmed footage or the written formal complaint document as far as we know.
Wonder if someone might take RS to court in the future?
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This situation is just so frustrating, IF what RS says is true, why didn't the 2 producers talk to someone BEFORE filing a complaint? IF they found out later that it wasn't that serious and they wish they could take it back, WHY did they do it? Is it that easy to just file a complaint? It just doesn't make sense to me at all, if Corinne seemed fine the next day, was she fine with it? It just doesn't make sense that it got this far at all to me? My head hurts ...
Yea and RS is getting involved and printing the opinion of some "source", that he believes...it's just dumb, he's not even a part of it and doesn't know anymore than anyone else imo
Yea and RS is getting involved and printing the opinion of some "source", that he believes...it's just dumb, he's not even a part of it and doesn't know anymore than anyone else imo
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I'm still in wait and see mode. But to make sure I'm tracking rumors and allegations per RS, is this where we are:
two separate producers file complaints
neither of whom actually saw what happened during or after the indecent
they now wish they could take it back
but the incident is all on tape
everyone who has seen the tape or was actually there has said it wasn't a big deal
but WB decided to shut down production for now, even though the producers who filed complaints want to take it back and say it isn't a big deal, the tape shows it wasn't a big deal, and everyone who was present said it wasn't a big deal.
Is that basically what he says he is hearing? Yeah, I'll wait and see where this lands. That doesn't add up to me, IMO. But I hope he's right...that would mean this really isn't a big deal and nobody was hurt. That's best case scenario, IMO.
two separate producers file complaints
neither of whom actually saw what happened during or after the indecent
they now wish they could take it back
but the incident is all on tape
everyone who has seen the tape or was actually there has said it wasn't a big deal
but WB decided to shut down production for now, even though the producers who filed complaints want to take it back and say it isn't a big deal, the tape shows it wasn't a big deal, and everyone who was present said it wasn't a big deal.
Is that basically what he says he is hearing? Yeah, I'll wait and see where this lands. That doesn't add up to me, IMO. But I hope he's right...that would mean this really isn't a big deal and nobody was hurt. That's best case scenario, IMO.
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Duke702 wrote:This situation is just so frustrating, IF what RS says is true, why didn't the 2 producers talk to someone BEFORE filing a complaint? IF they found out later that it wasn't that serious and they wish they could take it back, WHY did they do it? Is it that easy to just file a complaint? It just doesn't make sense to me at all, if Corinne seemed fine the next day, was she fine with it? It just doesn't make sense that it got this far at all to me? My head hurts ...
The thing is, we don't know if they did or didn't. We're now IMO hearing a very biased campaign from TPBP, who are Imo throwing the producers utb to direct the attention to anywhere else but themselves. Personally, I'm so glad that these women took a stand, when they heard, that a possible sexual assault happened. I wish there were more people like them around. Jmo
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@GuardianAngel no problem!GuardianAngel wrote:@TheWrongReasons Thanks for clarifying the toofab.com article.
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If the producers and/or MF feel like this is a "shakedown" and that Corrine and her handler(s) are trying to extort them in anyway that I can see why they would have zero issue with the handlers names being out there.
Not saying that's the case but it would make a bit more sense
Not saying that's the case but it would make a bit more sense
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I just don't get why 2 producers would risk their jobs/careers, if Corinne said things were fine and other contestants said things were not a big deal, imo somebody seems to be covering.
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They were handlers though I can't imagine they make a ton of money and work long hours. Since the claim is basically a sexual harassment in the workplace suit they would likely see A large payday from ABC in any settlement, which is likely in this case
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Costiesgirl wrote:They were handlers though I can't imagine they make a ton of money and work long hours. Since the claim is basically a sexual harassment in the workplace suit they would likely see A large payday from ABC in any settlement, which is likely in this case
Are you thinking that the claim is that the handlers/producers filed a complaint that they themselves were exposed to a inappropriate work environment in which sexual harassment/sexually inappropriate behavior by cast was condoned?
IF it is true that neither handler/producer was an eye-witness nor did they personally see the film footage, then they would only have learned about the incident from a third party. That could have been Corrine (perhaps after she was shown the footage she talked to the handler and said she could not remember any of the previous night's activities and the handler felt this was proof of an assault) or another cast or crew member came forward with what they observed as an eye-witness or on film after the fact.
What does not add up to me is that it was stated in an early report that a producer failed to report to work the day after the incident. This does not sound like it would be either of the 2 handlers/producers filing the complaint, because they would not stay home if they had no knowledge of the incident at that point. So, perhaps the one that stayed home from work was the one who spoke to the 2 that filed the complaint. Just a theory. But there are so many conflicting details being reported, and I do believe that is intentional.
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From @AmyKinLA
Pic from Amy quoted in article
Corinne has hired Marty Singer and made her first statement to @TMZ re: "Bachelor in Paradise." www.tmz.com/2017/06/14/cor…
Pic from Amy quoted in article
For context, Singer has represented Charlie Sheen, Arnold Schwarzenegger, John Travolta, Nicolas Cage, ScarJo and Mike Myers, among others.
Corinne has also hired a high-powered publicist: Stan Rosenfield, who has been representing Chris Soules and is George Clooney's go-to guy.
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