Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

OnePromise wrote:

notarose wrote:Nick posted a new IG story.  He is with a German Shepard, palm trees in the background.  He has several old pics with a German Shepard in LA.
One of the things he says is "Whatcha bin up to?"

This could be in relation to his having been on the speculated SHV with Vanessa or to the vid (I posted the link in Rachrl's thread) of Rachel with the dolphin/shark Alexis in a WI airport.  That pic was posted by a Bach producer.

I think the German shepard is his friend's (Kyle McCullough, @laconfident) dog, Leica.  And that IG story with the dog sounds fishy to me. Almost like Nick's voice is on the phone. And I haven't seen picture proof that Nick is in LA yet. Just the dog. Hmmmm. Tricky Nicky.

OMG! you guys are too good! I watched this the first time and thought nothing of it just that all right, he is back in LA. But after reading above post as well as another one (cmarci93), I rewatched and you're right, he does sound like he's on a recorder or something. Hmmmm, whatchoouuuu been up to Nick????

That definitely sounds like a voice recording.

IMO I do not have to look at Ravens or Rachel's SM I believe that Nick was with Vanessa and if it wasn't for the orange couch no one would ever have known. Nick is a wiz at using SM so he could of easily of done the IG posting of the dog which we only hear Nicks voice. There is no pic. of him in that story. I assume he left today because he has to tweet and promote the show. I find it very beautiful that the two of them were together and it to me proves he will do anything just to be with her. JMO

bleuberry wrote:That definitely sounds like a voice recording.

Yep I completely agree... I am not one for outlandish theories but its either a voice recording or its a new SC filter that makes your voice sound like its on the radio or something.

Can we have a SHV speculation thread? The info/speculation is all over and makes it hard to sleuth.
You guys are good! One minute I am sold they spent the weekend together, next minute I am not convinced at all. Hats off to Nick and V! They definitely make this post film sleuthing interesting.

whit90 wrote:IMO I do not have to look at Ravens or Rachel's SM I believe that Nick was with Vanessa and if it wasn't for the orange couch no one would ever have known. Nick is a wiz at using SM so he could of easily of done the IG posting of the dog which we only hear Nicks voice. There is no pic. of him in that story. I assume he left today because he has to tweet and promote the show. I find it very beautiful that the two of them were together and it to me proves he will do anything just to be with her. JMO

Wouldn't last weekend have been a scheduled SHV? But Vanessa turns up with the girls in Nashville. RS reports that they are having trouble (but who really knows if this is true or not). So if they are having trouble, maybe Nick went to her on his own because he really wants it to work and doesn't want to lose her. Just a thought.

sbolduc wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote:There was speculation of SHVs for Kait and both Nick and Shawn's movements were tracked.  And if I remember correctly, there was speculation leaning more one way than the other, even before the SC reveal.

IMO, it might be good for a list or case to be put together of when/what the others (Raven and Rach) were doing during the times of previously suspected SHVs.  Because that will pretty much confirm if there's another option for F1, IMO.  Now that doesn't help if Nick and Vanessa are having trouble or called it quits already.  And no I'm not saying they have or haven't.

I'm just not sold that they were together and/or on a SHV this weekend.  Unsanctioned visit maybe possibly, SHV, I don't think so.  Too many others possibly involved, IMO.  I'm just gonna sit and wait to see what else comes out.  JMO

Last supposed SHV - when Vanessa was seen at airport and Nick snapped on plane - Raven and Rachel were accounted for - I remember them being out and about. But we should keep a look out...Nick was somewhere with someone for the last three days.

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Ok I found a post that said during the last supposed SHV, 1/6-8, Raven was snapping about her dog
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3916p720-nick-viall-media-sm-vids-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-3#1087898

I really don't think there's major trouble, and don't think RS knows. He just likes to assume he knows. I'm sure the distance and logistics will make this relationship a little harder than others but I totally think Nick is going to give it his best shot.

My major clue that all is well was Danielle M's snapchat of Vanessa and the dog and she asked her "how in love are you right now?" Vanessa responded w a happy/sheepish smile and said "I almost said something bad." To me that indicated she's still very much in love at the moment.

Stacia620 wrote:

whit90 wrote:IMO I do not have to look at Ravens or Rachel's SM I believe that Nick was with Vanessa and if it wasn't for the orange couch no one would ever have known. Nick is a wiz at using SM so he could of easily of done the IG posting of the dog which we only hear Nicks voice. There is no pic. of him in that story. I assume he left today because he has to tweet and promote the show. I find it very beautiful that the two of them were together and it to me proves he will do anything just to be with her. JMO

Wouldn't last weekend have been a scheduled SHV? But Vanessa turns up with the girls in Nashville. RS reports that they are having trouble (but who really knows if this is true or not). So if they are having trouble, maybe Nick went to her on his own because he really wants it to work and doesn't want to lose her. Just a thought.

Yes last weekend could of been a SHV visit but you are right she went to see her friends. I think maybe TPTB may have scheduled that due to so many other girls being together. So they wanted to throw us off and show that Vanessa also was with her friends and she couldn't be F1. So many people are commenting on SM that she is the winnner. I do not see that they are having any troubles in all there IG's that almost come at the same time they look very happy. To me I have never seen Nick look so happy with any other woman than Vanessa. I really think we are truly and finally seeing a true love story and I love it. JMO

I am sure the distance is hard on both of them but it in the end it will be worth the wait. JMO

* I do not read RS or even care what he says . He has hated Nick since he first showed up on this show so to me he would love to think they are having problems but where are the facts. JMO

I think Bach/Ette franchise primarily use Delta for travel. The most direct flight on Delta from LA to Montreal makes a stop in Detroit. It also fits Nicks timeline for departure travel on Thursday. If Nick travelled to Montreal to spend time with Vanessa, I would surmise that was his mode of travel. If Nick returned last night he could be hanging with Leica and Kyle today. Not far fetched since Kyle is Nicks closest LA friend IMO.
JMO

This might not mean much but another reason I think that Nick and Vanessa are together is because many of her friends/family follow the Nick Viall and Vanessa Grimaldi instagram fan page. These are all people that Vanessa follows on Instagram and these people have photos/video with Vanessa on Instagram. So we know that she actually knows these people and is close with them in Montreal. If you look at their pages on Instagram you can see that they're all following the Nick & Vanessa fan page. Obviously just my opinion, but it doesn't seem like they would follow the page if they didn't care for Nick or if Nick and Vanessa were not together.

https://www.instagram.com/lucianomercuri/
https://www.instagram.com/scully2lu/
https://www.instagram.com/annachilli/
https://www.instagram.com/titina_x/
https://www.instagram.com/lespray/