Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

I think it is easier to cross borders on the down low by car. IMO

@Catdwoman50 Curious why you would think that. I cross by car often, and I live 30 minutes from the border. It's not easy, and it's getting worse every day.

I think either way he's going to have to be honest when asked, why are you coming here, how long are you staying, what are you bringing, any alcohol tobacco firearms, what do you do for work. If you're with someone, what is the association between you two.These are real questions border guards ask.

idon't think he's there with the german Shepard in LA , his voice sounds like it was recorded and he's filiming the Snapchat on a computer.

cmarci93 wrote:
Di don't think he's there with he german Shepard in LA , his voice sounds like it was recorded and he's filiming the Snapchat on a computer.

Stupid question by me but - is it possible to pre record snapchats then post or is it by nature an immediate live post? Never done one so excuse my ignorance.

If its related to promoting the next episodes then i would not be surprised if the lead and or tptb help prepare sm content well in advance and post up as and when. There must be protocol on this since sm got so much more advanced over the past few seasons.

@ukglasgowkiiss
Because this was an IG post he probably just recorded it off a computer but with Snapchat you can save a previous story and it will be in your old snapchats you can re post but when you wanna post a video or picture through your phone galley then r would look different then a live post and it will show when it was taken.

Also I'm not sure if you guys are noticing but when nick and Vanessa Snapchat normally they usually post the same exact thing on both accounts . And recently when nick post something it's only on IG and also Vanessa with that picture of the little girl usually she would post on Snapchat too. So I think they are posting random things to mess with our minds

GuardianAngel wrote:@Catdwoman50 Curious why you would think that. I cross by car often, and I live 30 minutes from the border. It's not easy, and it's getting worse every day.

I think either way he's going to have to be honest when asked, why are you coming here, how long are you staying, what are you bringing, any alcohol tobacco firearms, what do you do for work. If you're with someone, what is the association between you two.These are real questions border guards ask.

GA, down low is the operative word. I bet, they ask the same things at customs - just lesser number of witnesses. IMO. Haven't visited in the last year and have always traveled there as a tourist, both by car and plane.

Ladybug82 wrote:There was speculation of SHVs for Kait and both Nick and Shawn's movements were tracked.  And if I remember correctly, there was speculation leaning more one way than the other, even before the SC reveal.

IMO, it might be good for a list or case to be put together of when/what the others (Raven and Rach) were doing during the times of previously suspected SHVs.  Because that will pretty much confirm if there's another option for F1, IMO.  Now that doesn't help if Nick and Vanessa are having trouble or called it quits already.  And no I'm not saying they have or haven't.

I'm just not sold that they were together and/or on a SHV this weekend.  Unsanctioned visit maybe possibly, SHV, I don't think so.  Too many others possibly involved, IMO.  I'm just gonna sit and wait to see what else comes out.  JMO

Last supposed SHV - when Vanessa was seen at airport and Nick snapped on plane - Raven and Rachel were accounted for - I remember them being out and about. But we should keep a look out...Nick was somewhere with someone for the last three days.

I agree I do not think there was a sanctioned SHV, and I am leaning more towards they saw each other - if Vanessa is F1 - for the following reasons:

- Nick was seen at airport and was pretty much radio silent for 3 days - whether he was coming home or going somewhere he went somewhere and was not seen where ever that was... let alone in the airport.
- Orange couch - its not like it was a black, grey or brown couch - you know common colours. I don't even know if I can say I have ever actually seen or sat on an orange couch - that is extremely coincidental - if they both were sitting on a couch at pretty much the same time that is the same shade of orange.

All MO.

@cmarci93
I love that they would take the time to "mess with our minds".  

I do think that Nick has a little soft spot for his fans here. IMO he finds us entertaining and insightful otherwise he wouldn't play ball with us.  I'm sure that he has shared his interest with Vanessa.

sosleepy wrote:^^ To me that is literally how Nick looks in every selfie/picture he's ever taken. Vanessa, to me, always looks happy. Even in the selfie in question.

Agree about the Nick pic he always kind has that brooding, stoic look. IMO Vanessa looks perfectly content with her filtered doe-eyed deer face.

OnionLayers wrote:All flights to Montreal went through Terminal 2 at the LAX on Thursday. None of the flights from Miami go through that terminal. He must not have flown to Montreal.

The pic of Nick with the girls in LAX seemed to be taken right after security check and not in a terminal

OnionLayers wrote:All flights to Montreal went through Terminal 2 at the LAX on Thursday. None of the flights from Miami go through that terminal. He must not have flown to Montreal.

Flying from Canada to the States (and vice versa) unless you take Air Canada you usually stop at least once if not twice en route. So if he were flying from LA to Montreal I would suspect that he did not fly direct, and likely stopped in a major hub. Also pretty sure the first leg would be domestic, and only the last leg would be international.

Nick really could have flown into anywhere from LA and still ended up in Montreal. I am from Toronto and I have flown through Chicago, NY, Charlotte, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, Houston (these are the ones I can think off hand) when flying through the states - and these were all stops along the way.