Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 2 Jan 9th - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

I have been reading comments and watching ballgame the last few hours. Finally, I hunkered down ....expecting a different take away after the episode. Ha Ha I enjoyed it! Poor Corrine, Corinne...they (producers) are so going to reem her a new one! If not before, I think after first two episodes, she has an idea of how they set the table! Ouch. She's just a naughty kid. I didn't find her mean at all. I found myself laughing ... a feel sorry for her laugh, I guess...it's going to get brutal, IMO.

As for Danielle M., I'm in love. What a darling. She reminds me of Dez for some reason. She's absolutely not for Nick, IMO. But I can see his tears now when he says good-bye...I'll cry right along with him.

TPTB threw him a hell of a curveball asking Liz to join the show. I didn't think he was bored on second group date....I just felt he spent entire date trying to figure out how to get rid of Liz without ruining the entire date for the other girls. What a way to unsettle his nerves right from the get go. Personally, for me he passed that test with flying colors.

I'm glad we have a Corrine, I honestly believe she'll become less of a factor. IMO, there will be many players and personalities for us, the audience to gravitate towards. I'm a sap so I want to see the love story build and watch Nick earn it. It's coming...I can't wait!!!

It seems Nick has a really strong social and emotional IQ level. He can see the evil lurking down the road and take a detour. He did well, unlike others. He's at least as socially wise as Ben Higgins and Sean Lowe in that aspect. Poor Chris Soules.

We needed to see much more of this rare specimen Vanessa. It's already over for the rest of them. They just don't even know.

Lots of people giving Corinne the benefit of the doubt. It will be interesting to see if and how opinions change over a few more weeks.

Did we see any of his date with Vanessa in the preview I have not seen it again yet? Also they better NOT cut any of their date out...hell no..

Lara wrote:

bluwavz wrote:I'm torn on how to feel about Corinne. I don't think she's a bad or mean person. I don't buy that she's a bitch. I think she's just too try hard or thinks that's what a woman should do to get a man's interest. I don't know. I don't care for her but I can't say I completely dislike her either. She was 23 during filming? She still has a lot of time to grow up and mature. I was just annoyed with the focus on her and I blame TPTB more for that than anything. If only they knew moderation and didn't beat us over the head constantly when it comes to the "villains" of this show.

All JMO.

She was born in 1991, so she turned 25 right around when filming ended in mid-November. Not super old, but knowing she was 2 months away from 25 doesn't make me feel she can blame this completely on immaturity.

I don't think she's a b*tch either. She seems well-liked by most of the girls on Instagram; I just think she's attention-seeking and desperate, which is my least favorite combination in women. IMO.

Yeah, she's running out of time to use her age as an excuse. I'm sure she can be nice and just as passionate about her friendships as... everything else, but I did see some b!tchy tendencies. The faces she was making when Brittany walked in in her tiny outfit and when she was being photographed, the constant interrupting of people and then getting pissed when Taylor interrupted her, when she'd literally just done it herself, not to mention the condescending speech. I loved how it was met with complete silence. I think that says a lot about the maturity of the other women that they didn't waste one breath on her. No point trying to reason with someone who's that drunk and illogical. I think they mostly just pity her and are too busy wondering what it says about Nick that he's rewarding her behaviour to direct much anger at her. And yes, I definitely blame the show for shoving her down our throats half the episode, but that's just what they do, try to squeeze out every drop of drama out of a controversial person while they're still there. It just gets so tedious, since it happens every season. JMO.

Really think Corrine is kept around more for the drama & shock value for the viewers than because Nick wanted her there..he just did not seem that interested in her even in their 1 on 1 time..

Yes, it would be nice to think that the lead can carry the show 100% and that the "love match" will carry the show, but that's not the case. They need other arcs and Corrine real or Corrine xtra strength will add that for a few weeks.

Do people really like Vanessa for Vanessa or because she the winner?

The best part of the night was when Corinne complained and said "it was rude when Taylor re-interrupted her". No wonder she didn't make it to the RC for that episode.

mizzoufan wrote:Do people really like Vanessa for Vanessa or because she the winner?

I don't know if I like her or not. I haven't seen enough of her. She's been like a ghost on there so far other than the first night when I could clearly see Nick was way into her..

The way she point blank asks Nick wth he is here for next week says it all..no holding back just come out & ask him..I bet that turns Nick on even more when it comes to her, he is already very into her & this may just push him over the top

@mizzoufan
I really like Vanessa.

She speaks her mind with maturity and passion. She has a quirky, silly sense of humor bordering on sarcastic. She seems to radiate a peace and confidence from within that usually only develop with self reflection and a healthy dose of reality. Her friends and family all seem to support her and have only encouraging things to say to and about her. And her job speaks volumes about her. An adult special education teacher must posses certain qualities to even attempt her job. To name a few: perseverance, patience, compassion and ingenuity. I like her and I love her for Nick.

Can someone tell me where we see Nick watching Vanessa on last nights ep? I totally missed that..