Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - Episode 2 Jan 9th - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

AllAboutLove wrote:This episode Nick looked like he was going through the motions and doing "the show" to me - even the kisses looked like he was having to do something (he just doesn't seem that into most of them TBH and I can't blame him - but there's a show to make so...).

I felt the one real moment was him talking with Dani M and about her past. The rest was just filler stuff but honestly I can see why there is all the filler as I don't think there would be a show without the villains/drama at the beginning. It's the tried and true staple for this show.

That said, I am looking forward to Nick and Vanessa's date next week. I have a feeling that Nick will be chasing Vanessa on that date and Nick's interest will be undeniable.

I agree that Nick was going through the motions this episode. He looked either bored or embarrassed most of the night.

One of my favourite moments was when Corinne stared taking off her top and Nick seemed to step back a bit and throw his hands in the air with a look that just screamed ... No hands, look, no hands. I'm not touching her. Poor guy, but then he had to. And her, saying that her father would be proud. WTH? What kind of father would be proud? He should kick her azz out of the house and tell her to go get a real job and no more nanny for you!

As for the highlighted, I'm just wondering how much of their date we will actually see? Will they show us the bare minimum and cut out the good parts? I have a feeling it might be a very short date and leave us feeling unsatisfied, although, that preview of Vanessa laying down the ground rules might be worth all the Corinne torture I may have to endure.

Vanessa with the 'best line' of the night and why she will win Nick's heart IMO. She didn't just say it in an ITM but to him directly after knowing him for a week in real time and I love that about her.

I am getting excited to see Nick with a woman who'll keep him on his toes IMO.  

@bluwavz, IA! When she said, "When I talked, he listened. Guys don't listen to me!", I felt it gave a reason as to why Corinne acts the way she does. If that was genuine, I kinda feel bad for her. She needs to date better guys and then she'll prolly understand that she doesn't have to lead by her 'platinum vagine' for relationships to work.  All JMO.

bluwavz wrote:I'm torn on how to feel about Corinne. I don't think she's a bad or mean person. I don't buy that she's a bitch. I think she's just too try hard or thinks that's what a woman should do to get a man's interest. I don't know. I don't care for her but I can't say I completely dislike her either. She was 23 during filming? She still has a lot of time to grow up and mature. I was just annoyed with the focus on her and I blame TPTB more for that than anything. If only they knew moderation and didn't beat us over the head constantly when it comes to the "villains" of this show.

All JMO.

 23 and treating herself to a spring break type experience. I don't see her as mean or bad either, just wrong minded when it comes to the role of sexuality in a relationship.

Continue to love Dani M.  I downloaded Wells' snapchat. He mentioned that he and Dani have known each other since before Wells appeared on the Bette and praised her character. Later, she appeared on his snap.
In an interview awhile back, Wells said he told her Nick likes to be chased so obviously they had a convo about Nick before she went on the show.
Nick and Dani didn't mesh IMO but I see potential for a friendship even post-show. I'm not sure she would go on BIP.  She could meet many guys through Wells if that's what she wanted. I could still see her being a Bette.  It could be great for her to meet a lot of men to get a sense of what she wants in a partner that differs from her former fiancé. Her past resembles Emily Maynard in that the relationship had an abrupt end with no opportunity for closure plus for Dani she went through a period of not trusting her own judgement because she was unaware of his drug use. Regardless of her future choice, she's a sweetheart in my book.

Love this pic Nick posted of him and Dani M and such a sweet caption by Nick as well. I love it even more especially since Dani and Vanessa are so close. I can see them all being real friends after all this.



Great times with beautiful Danielle! #thebachelor by @nickviall

While Liz was around Nick kept figuring out how to go about the secret. Now when she is gone I hope he'll be able to be more present.

^^ Yes, AAL, great picture!!!

bluwavz wrote:I'm torn on how to feel about Corinne. I don't think she's a bad or mean person. I don't buy that she's a bitch. I think she's just too try hard or thinks that's what a woman should do to get a man's interest. I don't know. I don't care for her but I can't say I completely dislike her either. She was 23 during filming? She still has a lot of time to grow up and mature. I was just annoyed with the focus on her and I blame TPTB more for that than anything. If only they knew moderation and didn't beat us over the head constantly when it comes to the "villains" of this show.

All JMO.

She was born in 1991, so she turned 25 right around when filming ended in mid-November. Not super old, but knowing she was 2 months away from 25 doesn't make me feel she can blame this completely on immaturity.

I don't think she's a b*tch either. She seems well-liked by most of the girls on Instagram; I just think she's attention-seeking and desperate, which is my least favorite combination in women. IMO.

GuardianAngel wrote:Italian mixed with French, dangerous combo

I said the same thing to myself GA!!!!!

mprssdbyu wrote:I think it's brilliant he gave Corrine group date roses to keep her emotionally engaged in the process. They took the place of 1 on 1 he chose to spend with others, IMO. Looks like it worked if she landed in F4. She doesn't strike me as who would be content with so little  1 on 1 time with him.

I feel like they are shoving her down our throats. She brings nothing new or interesting IMHO. It's just yada yada, more of the same contrived stuff. They need to update their scripts.

I did not completely enjoyed this episode either.  Agree with some of the commentary on here, Nick appeared bored/tired/uncomfortable during the first date. I have no doubt all the Corrine bits are producer's job, Nick knows to play the part, but also not to, when the time calls for it...It is part of him accepting this role as the lead.  I believe he knows this all too well.
I saw a few snaps of him and Vanessa with her wedding costume.  Dress was ugly as heck, but Vanessa was as stunning as ever in it... I am pretty confident that they did have and shared a special moment during that date.  When the girls wondered who Nick would give his rose to, all in PI's, Vanessa said something along the lines of being almost sure Corrine would not get it, "specially" not after the time they spent together...or something similar.  No doubt the producers are hiding some things early on.
Second group date I thought was fun, and could have continued that way, If not for Liz... I understand there was a need for her to discuss their "small history" (as Nick put it) at some point soon, but the timing during this date was all wrong and made her look a bit silly (to be nice)
Nick did everything 100% correct when speaking to her, said the obvious logical things, and was honest with her when telling her the time has passed, and bidding her "Adieu, Sayonara, Hasta La Vista, Good-Bye, Ta-Ta, Ciao" etc etc
For some reason, I thought Nick looked tired during this group date as well.
The 1 on 1 with Dani M was sweet, very real and honest, but it lacked that pizzazz I feel a date needs to have in order to move forward into a more intimate/romantic level.  I also do not feel Dani M would make a good Bachelorette, she is so pretty, sweet, and way too shy to handle the whole thing, IMO
Corrine to me is putting a bit of an act for ratings, I do not hate her, but she does not entertain me whatsoever.  I feel she just enjoys having attention, not necessarily in a malicious way. Don't think she even knows half the time what she is doing, oh well! Like @sprite said, I hope somebody tells her in her family (after they see her actions) "No Nanny for you!!" haha! A la Seinfeld "Soup Nazi" episode  
Nick, still as hot as ever...still my TV crush

Kashathediva wrote:@GuardianAngel  Yep. I don't think getting the group rose was anything more than producer pick, too with Nick going along with them.  Corrine is good tv trash. She is pissing all the women off episode 2.

Looks like she's pissing off the audience as well. MF is already asking on twitter if she's too young to be Bachette. I replied, no, she's too boring.