The Bachelorette 12 - JoJo Fletcher - S/Caps - SM - Sleuthing - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

I would like something slightly off kilter to happen. I like off kilter things. IMO it has been a boring, yet typical season, so off kilter would be nice. However, I don't expect it will be off.
I kept hoping Chad R would make a final return to throw JoJo into a mess, but I guess it's not hard to mess wth JoJo and they left Chad R at home. 

I think it's amazing that sleuthers found a seam on one of the blue suits. I'm surprised the F2 both had on the same colour and they had what looked like two FRC set ups.

I hope it's because they know how good we are. Wish they would do more of that stuff. I find those are the things that keeps it interesting when it's such a scripted same old thing every season as far as edit. S/caps are one of my favourite things to do while sleuthing.

Ladybug82 wrote:Ok, so going off the ILY vs. the I wanted it to be you SC...

She's gonna freak out after Jordan doesn't ask her dad/parents permission.  And then when she grills him on the LCD, he's got his guard up about not being the only guy there.  And she's worried if he'd actually propose.  

So, on FRC day.. Does she tell Robby ILY and possibly accept a proposal from him, since he's the earlier arrival?  Or does she have Jordan arrive before Robby, send him off, he writes the letter and returns?  Which seems the likeliest scenario?  And do you think we'll be shown all of it for the added drama and effect at the FRC?  Or will they not show his return until during the AFTR?  

too many questions and not enough answers we can back with evidence, yet anyway.  Bring on the short promos and media net pics!  They can't get released fast enough, IMO.  

JMOAA

I won't be surprised if we don't get more pics on media net. The fact that they actually removed the numbers from the guys pics, confirms that they read this site. What other site use those numbers to determine the ending! They also failed to show Jojo laughing at something Jordan did during the bloopers.Something else we've noticed and use for sleuthing. We've been made!!!!

I apologize for the double post...unrelated.

Welll...

I prayed for clarity before making the decision to post this ( ) , but, at this point in time, with what we have, and have sleuthed from the 1st FRC preview, the SC's are pointing to Jordan as F2!

I am not bringing anything else into consideration here. Talking about SC's alone, i.e, seam and no seam sleeves. That is all.

I personally, would love to hear your findings @Julychild.
I never pick a fav and only really care about sleuthing, so if you would not mind break it all down for me. Please.
I love to follow the geometry of the season. 
Thank you.

Could somebody explain the seam amd no seam that people ate talking about?

The seam is on the shoulder of the suit.
A suit usually will have the seam under the arm. Sometimes it runs at 2 o'clock.
Here is the seam on the suit at what I call 2o'clock from the shoulder.

re media net. I posted those pics last night with no problem in the No Discussion thread. Today I see they are not showing up which tells me they are changing /changed something.

Kashathediva wrote:I personally, would love to hear your findings @Julychild.
I never pick a fav and only really care about sleuthing, so if you would not mind break it all down for me. Please.
I love to follow the geometry of the season. 
Thank you.

I wanted to bring the pics, but not in a position to do so right now. Pics are in the no discussion thread, but to break it down:
* Grace and co had determined from the 1st preview that there were 2 guys in blue suites
* Grace said one suite had a seam in the sleeve and the other didn't. Looking at pics, a lot of posters agreed with her on this
* We said the hand (no seam) was Robby's because of hair on hand, and direction of vein. Not sure, but think they said it forks towards his ring finger?
* New preview shows Jojo looking distressed while talking to seam in sleeve guy (Jordan)
* Also shows Jojo crying but smiling while talking to no seam guy (Robby)
* Litta, in the non-spoiled side, has SC of side of face of no seam guy and it looks like Robby because of facial hair


I drew my conclusion based on all of these. All of this could be wrong, but it's where the SC's (ALONE) have led me to right now.

Kashathediva wrote:The seam is on the shoulder of the suit.
A suit usually will have the seam under the arm. Sometimes it runs at 2 o'clock.
Here is the seam on the suit at what I call 2o'clock from the shoulder.

Thanks..l but whats it being compared to..l and how does it effect what people are thinking.

julychild wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:I personally, would love to hear your findings @Julychild.
I never pick a fav and only really care about sleuthing, so if you would not mind break it all down for me. Please.
I love to follow the geometry of the season. 
Thank you.

I wanted to bring the pics, but not in a position to do so right now. Pics are in the no discussion thread, but to break it down:
* Grace and co had determined from the 1st preview that there were 2 guys in blue suites
* Grace said one suite had a seam in the sleeve and the other didn't. Looking at pics, a lot of posters agreed with her on this
* We said the hand (no seam) was Robby's because of hair on hand, and direction of vein. Not sure, but think they said it forks towards his ring finger?
* New preview shows Jojo looking distressed while talking to seam in sleeve guy (Jordan)
* Also shows Jojo crying but smiling while talking to no seam guy (Robby)
* Litta, in the non-spoiled side, has SC of side of face of no seam guy and it looks like Robby because of facial hair


I drew my conclusion based on all of these. All of this could be wrong, but it's where the SC's (ALONE) have led me to right now.

Just to devil's advocate it:
In many past seasons the lead is shown upset at the FRC with one cast person--so it leads the audience to think that is the F2, but it is the F1. 
And when the lead is shown smiling at the cast person at the FRC, the audience is led to believe that is the F1, until the lead says--"BUT---

So could this be the case again?

I am throwing this out there. As per my post upthread, the pics weren't showing up this morning even though I linked them no problem last night.

I decided just now, to save them, and upload them. When I saved them to my desktop, I looked for any info that might be helpful. Sometimes it show information. I hovered over the pic, and noticed this.

JoJo standing smiling May 12 2016 20:21

JoJo walking down the stairs. May 12 2016 21:16

Robby walking towards her May 12 2016 21:42

Jordan walking towards her May 12 2016 22:49

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