The Bachelorette 12 - JoJo Fletcher - S/Caps - SM - Sleuthing - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

Litta you guys did a bang up job this season. My hat's off to you! 

Thanks @Seabear and @Kashathediva! It was a lot of fun and made watching the show a lot more interesting. On one hand, I'd love to do it again; but on the other, it's a LONG way until January!

I'm not sure I want to stay out of the discussions from the rest of the threads on this board. To be safe, that's what I felt I needed to do. I missed so many good posts, I'm sure...and now there's too many to even try to catch up...but it was a great experience. And, I loved the camaraderie of the non-spoiled folks.

Alanna wrote:

pavalygurl wrote:

nd4reality wrote:"What you did to me is not right" - is this to Jordan and about him not asking her dad for his blessing ?

If so wow. Probably not since the light is much more in that SC. So what did Robby do in that case ?

This is my question.   Do the words seem to match up with the visual or does anyone think it's a frankenbite?

That would be a new level of crazy, even for her, calling not asking for permission a "thing he did to her." If so, d@mn. And he still stayed and popped the question?

And how does her statement: "I fell in love with a man who could not love me the way I said I wanted to be loved" come in??? Who is she referring to: Jordan or Robby??

Jojo: I wanted it to be you

HEA wrote:Jojo: I wanted it to be you

yes, yes and the rest of her thought, goes a little something like this: BUT my heart is with someone else

and when someone else arrives she tells HIM I LOVE YOU!!

I think she wanted it to be Robby, because he made her feel loved unlike shifty Jordan, but she felt more strongly about Jordan herself, so Robby had to be axed.

mindless wrote:I think she wanted it to be Robby, because he made her feel loved unlike shifty Jordan, but she felt more strongly about Jordan herself, so Robby had to be axed.

ITA Mindless.

I agree Mindless. I am guessing her family all saw Robby as more of a husband and Jordan as more like a boyfriend. Ben P made some comment to JoJo on comparing the guys to a New Years Eve date vs a House, Marriage and Raising a Family. I am looking forward to the MTP dates and seeing the interactions.
My deal with Jordan...is I cannot see him as being ready to be married at all.
JMO

I think she wanted Robby personality in Jordan's body...

^^ I think JoJo wanted Jordan from day one, knew she couldn't trust him but couldn't stay away. So she kept 'trying on' the other guys, Robby's unwavering commitment, Chase's vulnerability, Luke's quiet confidence... but in the end, the heart wants what the heart wants. She's young. We all go through it. Hopefully she will learn.

I dont think its that she cant trust Jordan in particular, i think she'd be having the same doubts and concerns with any of the other guys that was going to be her F1. Her over the top insecurities are the result of past relationships and the number Ben pulled on her by declaring his love in the Bubble when he really didnt mean it. Jordan is getting blamed for it because of his past, and although it might weigh on her mind, i think Ben or Luke or Chase would be the ones getting the third degree from her if they were the one she really wanted to be with.

northernviewer wrote:I dont think its that she cant trust Jordan in particular, i think she'd be having the same doubts and concerns with any of the other guys that was going to be her F1.   Her over the top insecurities are the result of past relationships and the number Ben pulled on her by declaring his love in the Bubble when he really didnt mean it.  Jordan is getting blamed for it because of his past, and although it might weigh on her mind, i think Ben or Luke or Chase would be the ones getting the third degree from her if they were the one she really wanted to be with.  

Yes!!!!!! This is what I'm saying!! Exactly. It's Jo that this is coming from, not that he's inherently untrustworthy to her imo. She doesn't care what Robby or Chase or anyone else tell her and doesn't question it because 110% of all her anxieties are solely on the shoulders of the man she wants imo. And I feel for him tbh: he is paying for sins of boyfriends and Bens past when he's done nothing wrong to her in my view.