The Bachelorette 12 - JoJo Fletcher - S/Caps - SM - Sleuthing - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

But if Jordan's call is to her parents and her parents see he's who she wants most, then, I'm pretty sure that'll resolve any issue.  My family is important to me and I'm sure my parents may not have always liked who I dated.  They would voice their opinion, but it was up to me to decide who I dated and my mistakes to make and learn from.  Even if they weren't fond of the person, they were always there lending support and ready to pick me up and move on if I fell.  

Besides the F1's MTP normally tends to cast doubt while the F2 builds their confidence.  Plus, once he writes the letter to explain it whatever - probably the why he didn't ask before, now he has, and just where he stands with her, pours it all out, without his guard up... There's  no way she's going to say no, IMO.  That's why she gets so upset, to begin with.  She's worried he won't ask, he didn't get permission which her parents didn't like, and he gets defense when she questions him for the thousandth time.  He's worried she'll pick Robby and she's worried he won't pick her.

JMO

Ladybug82 wrote:But if Jordan's call is to her parents and her parents see he's who she wants most, then, I'm pretty sure that'll resolve any issue.  My family is important to me and I'm sure my parents may not have always liked who I dated.  They would voice their opinion, but it was up to me to decide who I dated and my mistakes to make and learn from.  Even if they weren't fond of the person, they were always there lending support and ready to pick me up and move on if I fell.  

Besides the F1's MTP normally tends to cast doubt while the F2 builds their confidence.  Plus, once he writes the letter to explain it whatever - probably the why he didn't ask before, now he has, and just where he stands with her, pours it all out, without his guard up... There's  no way she's going to say no, IMO.  That's why she gets so upset, to begin with.  She's worried he won't ask, he didn't get permission which her parents didn't like, and he gets defense when she questions him for the thousandth time.  He's worried she'll pick Robby and she's worried he won't pick her.

JMO

Exactly. The entire season Jo has been begging this man to choose her out of all the thousands of imaginary other women competing for him in her mind. And when he's standing there with a ring, picking her, she's going to say no? Nothing leads me to believe any version of that happened at all or ever would have happened. Jmo.

^ Only if those alien ants climbed into her ear.

Kashathediva wrote:^ Only if those alien ants climbed into her ear.

Something tells me she'd ignore them too.
Then I think of, be careful what you ask for Jojo, because you just might regret get it.

Please name leads that were so certain during the FRC episode because I can't think of one. They are always torn between the F1 and F2 and the episode guide usually says they can't decide and asks will they walk away alone. They wake up in the morning and they suddenly have "clarity" and know exactly who they are going to choose. We have seen it every season.

Everyone's opinions are welcomed, however, there has been hours and hours of sleuthing on this forum. Proof, provided, not to mention others that spends hours tracking SM likes posts etc.

This is a sleuthing forum. We base our opinions on what we have sleuthed. We may speculate based on SM or s/caps, but we don't go in circles discussing something that has no basis no proof and is just theory.  

We have already posted that some of those s/caps of her alone are probably promotional pic's because for years we have sleuthed them. How is it concluded she is standing there by herself because she chose no one? How is it concluded that she left alone, and then decided later she wanted Jordan? The F1's family is never fond of the F1. Never that I ever remember. There is always doubt cast on the F1 by the parents, otherwise what's the point.

I am welcoming discussion that she chose no one, but I would like a s/cap or something concrete just like all the other sleuthing that has been done that shows a strong possibility that Jordan proposed to her.

^^ I agree @Alanna... As soon as we saw that preview of her saying "I love you" ... her whole body language just looked like she was surrendering herself fully in that moment IMO... There was zero anxiety like a BUT was about to come etc... so IMO she accepted a proposal for sure.

Can I just say that the sleuthing has been phenomenal this season...and basically every season! Great job, everyone!

Ladybug82 wrote:But if Jordan's call is to her parents and her parents see he's who she wants most, then, I'm pretty sure that'll resolve any issue.  My family is important to me and I'm sure my parents may not have always liked who I dated.  They would voice their opinion, but it was up to me to decide who I dated and my mistakes to make and learn from.  Even if they weren't fond of the person, they were always there lending support and ready to pick me up and move on if I fell.  

Besides the F1's MTP normally tends to cast doubt while the F2 builds their confidence.  Plus, once he writes the letter to explain it whatever - probably the why he didn't ask before, now he has, and just where he stands with her, pours it all out, without his guard up... There's  no way she's going to say no, IMO.  That's why she gets so upset, to begin with.  She's worried he won't ask, he didn't get permission which her parents didn't like, and he gets defense when she questions him for the thousandth time.  He's worried she'll pick Robby and she's worried he won't pick her.

JMO

I agree with all of this! I listened to all of the promos again today and think that the crying was switched around again as well just to create confusion. If you listen to the one of her fanning herself with the letter you hear right before that part with the VO "I can't keep doing this to myself..blah blah...these are the words that I want to hear before getting engaged and I need to stop doing this to myself. (Paraphrasing)" You can hear rattling of paper in the background (my guess: the letter). I think crying is first once she gets to letter (fanning and panic attack), she reads it and then has her clarity and calms down. Total speculation IMO. :cutesmile!: