The Bachelorette 12 - JoJo Fletcher - S/Caps - SM - Sleuthing - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #2

sure. i do not contest SM is important but is is IMO part of a whole.
sometimes new elements show up (me recall the kid picture on Brad fridge) that turned around some ending and I recall that infamous was wrong on that season. So until the AFTR when she declares her undying love to Jordan, I am still having fun to see a possible different ending.

JMO

I agree with the above posts about Jojo definitely not ending up alone.  And to add to it... TPTB always throw the line in the last epi description about choosing one or none, but they haven't hyped a possible no F1 ending or given enough hint of it in the edit, previews and SCs for me personally to believe it's an option.

I think it will be a bumpy ride for Jordan to end up getting to the FRC and proposing, but when he actually gets there, I can't see her sending him away and saying no, especially after her reading his letter.  Before when she's disappointed that he didn't asked her dad/parents and had the conversation about how big the convo with the Dad was and and the Dad just knowing and then further having his guard up on the LCD about not being the only one there, possibly maybe I could see her wanting to postpone the FRC or something.  She's worried he won't, but IMO, it's her own fault from all the babbling about how great they both are and all from the last RC.  He visible looked hurt and concerned when hearing all her gushing about both of them, IMO.  But once she knows everything and he asks, no way... While all the other guys were chasing Jo, she was chasing Jordan.  

Even if thing are bumpy and wonky leading up to the FRC, when you add in all the post season sleuthing, she left Thialand happy and with someone.  And is still with them, IMO at this point.  But that's JMOAA.

ETA: I'm all for sleuthing until the end, but I need something to work with and build on. And I'm just not seeing it at this point.

The final days of JoJo’s journey are filled with questions. Then, in a surprising, explosive ending, she must do the hardest thing she has ever done. Will her trip of self-discovery end with her accepting a proposal? Or will she simply walk away? Will one guy get the woman of his dreams or be left brokenhearted?

abc source

for me abc clearly mentioned this possibility IMO

Yes, and as I mentioned in post above, every season we get that or something along the same lines of could the lead end up alone in the final episode description.  That's nothing new.  

What is there besides that to indicate it as a possibility?  

So what is she doing alone at the beginning of sunset with no shoes? because I am thinking if she picked jordan, she should be seen on his arms, kissing with mutual ILYs walking TOGETHER in the sunset.... like every other couple we saw.

Point me in the direction where I can see the lead and their final one walking in the sunset together because in all my years of sleuthing, others way longer than me, I do not ever recall getting a scap such as that.

There has been sleuthing all season that points to Jordan. After filming there has been a number of SM proof etc that leads one to believe they are together. Most recently both travelled to L.A. They have been quiet since arriving. Robby is out and about taking fan pics.

We know the People shoot is right before the ATFR, same itinerary different season. Since they both have been quiet it is reasonable to believe they have been together since leaving their respective cities. Jordan's family have been liking SM pics, giving interviews with positive remarks about Jojo as recent as the last few days.

All the pics from disney are released for a reason. Google FRC and you will see plenty of leads staring into the ocean, staring into the trees or whatever. This is not unusual. We have seen in the past the same type of pics, where plants and flower pots were moved. Chances are we won't even see those pics Monday night because most often they are taken for promotional purposes only.

What proof do you have that she's alone post filming, because I would like to know as well. Is Jordan somewhere else? Is there proof he isn't in L.A after the SM pics proved he was?

there is nothing in the episode description that leads me to believe that this is not a straightforward f2 rejection followed by an acceptance of a proposal by the f1.

Nor has any SC told me that there is a double rejection of both guys or for that matter even to one guy.
Jmo.

GuardianAngel wrote:

So what is she doing alone at the beginning of sunset with no shoes? because I am thinking if she picked jordan, she should be seen on his arms, kissing with mutual ILYs walking TOGETHER in the sunset.... like every other couple we saw.

Point me in the direction where I can see the lead and their final one walking in the sunset together because in all my years of sleuthing, others way longer than me, I do not ever recall getting a scap such as that.

There has been sleuthing all season that points to Jordan. After filming there has been a number of SM proof etc that leads one to believe they are together. Most recently both travelled to L.A. They have been quiet since arriving. Robby is out and about taking fan pics.

We know the People shoot is right before the ATFR, same itinerary different season. Since they both have been quiet it is reasonable to believe they have been together since leaving their respective cities. Jordan's family have been liking SM pics, giving interviews with positive remarks about Jojo as recent as the last few days.

All the pics from disney are released for a reason. Google FRC and you will see plenty of leads staring into the ocean, staring into the trees or whatever. This is not unusual. We have seen in the past the same type of pics, where plants and flower pots were moved. Chances are we won't even see those pics Monday night because most often they are taken for promotional purposes only.

What proof do you have that she's alone post filming, because I would like to know as well. Is Jordan somewhere else? Is there proof he isn't in L.A after the SM pics proved he was?

I'm no sleuth at all but in looking at that pic I would say that was taken after Robby left but right before Jordan arrived. I think she had a bit of a break between the two to allow her time to get herself together after sending Robby home.

Wake me when it's over. In the meantime, I'm going back to the word games. LOL.

GuardianAngel wrote:They take tons of pics before anything starts happening for the purpose of advertising the epi.

There are s/caps of both Robby and Jordan approaching the FRC spot, where you can clearly see it's more brighter for Robby than it is for Jordan. That has been sleuthed with proof as to time's the sun was setting in Thailand.

I don't think that HEA is questioning who is F1. I think HEA is wondering if she rejected her F1 also.

Columbia, MD wrote:Wake me when it's over.  In the meantime, I'm going back to the word games.  LOL.

Then how do you add into the mix all the post season filming sleuthing indicating Jordan?  Because you can't simply ignore or throw that out the window and act like it doesn't exist, IMO.

Even RS and rag mags say she ended up with an F1.  There's debate on if they're happy, together or not, but that's a whole different conversation, because IMO that clearly means she picked someone.  JMO

If she rejected the F1 does that mean they hooked up later and met at SHV's and July 4th and all the other proof that all the sleuthers worked so hard at is not being considered?

Again, what proof is there that she rejects the F1? I'd welcome that discussion.