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Post by GuardianAngel Sun May 29, 2016 2:50 pm

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GuardianAngel wrote:Sorry, I may have missed it, how do we know it's Jordan?

I'm going by the process of elimination.  If you notice in the room where the guys are sitting around, Jordan is absent.  The guy that has her up against the wall looks like Jordan.

Ok thanks for clarifying your opinions. It hasn't been proven then. It doesn't look like Jordan's head to me that's why I asked.


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Post by GuardianAngel Sun May 29, 2016 2:52 pm

HEA wrote:i do not want to spoil where... but do you think both are the same tree?


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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Sun May 29, 2016 3:41 pm

I didn't know whether or not to put this in the SM thread, but most people speculated on it here soooo: In one of JoJo's E! Interviews, she confirms that she addresses Chad's article on the show. So, you guys were right!! Smiley

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Post by Aunties_Love Sun May 29, 2016 4:15 pm

grace8136 wrote:^^For the F4 RC is the person who got the GDR shown last in orange? If so, the person that got the GDR for the 'ette has never been F1? Is that right Auntie?
I think Chase will get it this time because Robby got it in episode 6 and it's between him and Chase.
Sorry, stepped away for the day....the only exception that I see is for Emily's season when Jef got the GDR for epi 4


ETA: what I can also tell you is that in epi 3, the F1 had a rose(be it one from a group date or individual date) going into the RC since Jillian's season which was the first in this longer seasons except for Emily's season.


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Post by Aunties_Love Sun May 29, 2016 5:19 pm

julychild wrote:Buenos Aires? I thought episode 7 was filmed in Mendoza, and they returned to BA just for the RC?

Great find in_denial!!!!!!
I am late to the party as always it seems, but in epi 6, the F1 was on the group date except for Ashley's season when the F1, JP had an individual date.

Episode 6 is in BA so either he got the GDR for that epi and that's why she may be holding the rose that someone sees in the pic. Now for the epi 6, the F1 has never received the GDR though.


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Post by Aunties_Love Sun May 29, 2016 5:34 pm

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julychild wrote:Buenos Aires? I thought episode 7 was filmed in Mendoza, and they returned to BA just for the RC?

Great find in_denial!!!!!!

The photo is tagged 'San Telmo, Buenos Aires'.

FWIW, that pic would of been epi 6 in BA, Epi 7 is Mendoza.


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Post by Guest Sun May 29, 2016 5:57 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:
HEA wrote:i do not want to spoil where... but do you think both are the same tree?


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IMO if you're not going to share the info, then IMO you can sleuth on your own.

I was asking an un-baised opinion...  but thank you, I will follow your kind advise.


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Post by Aunties_Love Sun May 29, 2016 5:59 pm

grace8136 wrote:
julychild wrote:Buenos Aires? I thought episode 7 was filmed in Mendoza, and they returned to BA just for the RC?

Great find in_denial!!!!!!

Why? Because of the press release about them going to the Argentine countryside?

We do have tweets, be it from RS, but they stated that the hotel was Entre Cielos Hotel   http://entrecielos.com/  in Mendoza.

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julychild wrote:Buenos Aires? I thought episode 7 was filmed in Mendoza, and they returned to BA just for the RC?

Great find in_denial!!!!!!

The photo is tagged 'San Telmo, Buenos Aires'.

No, not doubting the location. It's just that RS reported that they moved to Mendoza for the second week in Argentina. He had pics of Jojo at the hotel. The press release also said that they went to the countryside after Buenos Aires. We had that date as the Epi 7 1-on-1.

Yes, July, Mendoza was Episode 7, and per the google earth pic I posted, BA and Mendoza are too far apart for them to go back and forth, IMO.

grace8136 wrote:
julychild wrote:
in_denial wrote:

The photo is tagged 'San Telmo, Buenos Aires'.

No, not doubting the location. It's just that RS reported that they moved to Mendoza for the second week in Argentina. He had pics of Jojo at the hotel. The press release also said that they went to the countryside after Buenos Aires. We had that date as the Epi 7 1-on-1.

Wells, Chase/Derek, GD- street soccer.. so Jordan's has to be episode 7, right?  Auntie pointed out that Alex was back on SM by 4/14 so she thought that date was first for episode 7. So maybe they filmed Jordan's when they went back for the RC??
Here's the schedule and hotel locations for epi 5, 6, 7, that we know of. IMO, we could be looking at Jordan and Robby getting the epi 7 ID's and Alex could very well of been on the group date. Past season stats: Ali/Emily, both F1/F2 had ID's in epi 7, but for Ali, Ashley, Emily, Des's seasons, the F2 had an ID in epi 7.


Episode 5 – 10 In Punta del Este, Uruaguy (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James T, Luke, Derek, Wells, Alex, Grant, Chad, Evan)
4/3: 1-on-1 Date: JORDAN
4/4: Group Date tweeted pics:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfNas0CUEAA3zNi.jpg That was tweeted out at: 11:50am est or 12:50pm Cabo Polonio/Uruguay time. Also Kristen Baldwin tweet talking about group date.(GRANT, EVAN, VINNY, LUKE, CHASE, DEREK, JAMES T, WELLS, ALEX)Sand sledding
4/5: 1-on-1: ROBBY was seen walking with Jojo. Capi Bar in Punta del Este. After leaving the bar with her date, they walked on the street and were then treated to a fireworks show.
4/6: 5th Rose Ceremony ELIMINATED: Grant, Evan, Vinny

4/7: Travel

Episode 6 – Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic 8-6 (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH talking about what to expect this week
4/8: 1-on-1 Date WELLS....eliminated; back on SM 4/9
4/9: Group Date: ROBBY, JORDAN, ALEX, LUKE, JAMES T Robby got GDR
4/10: 2-on-1 Date; CHASE AND DEREK; Derek eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony: NO RC
4/12: Travel


Episode 7 – Filming in Mendoza, Argentina @ Entre Cielos Hotel http://entrecielos.com/ (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date: ALEX; horseback riding
4/14: 1-on-1 Date: JORDAN
4/15: Group Date: ROBBY, CHASE, JAMES T, LUKE
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony ELIMINATED: James




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Post by grace8136 Sun May 29, 2016 6:00 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
in_denial wrote:
julychild wrote:Buenos Aires? I thought episode 7 was filmed in Mendoza, and they returned to BA just for the RC?

Great find in_denial!!!!!!

The photo is tagged 'San Telmo, Buenos Aires'.

FWIW, that pic would of been epi 6 in BA, Epi 7 is Mendoza.


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That's what confused us last night. But, as Ash pointed out- would SQT from a group date have a dinner like Jordan does? The other dates are already sleuthed to BA. The episode 7 RC is back in BA, so maybe they filmed Jordan's date before they left or when they got back from Mendoza before the RC???

ETA: Also, it looks like Alex may have been on a GD in episode 7.
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Post by mindless Sun May 29, 2016 6:54 pm

stuckinsc wrote:
boston1 wrote:
HEA wrote:everyone was identified right?

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scaps made by HEA from recorded TV show - episode 1


who is this guy with her against the wall??
I think 1 is Vinny, 2 is Robby, 3 I don't know, 4 is Wells, 5 is Alex and 6 is Chase.

I agree with this, except 5 could be Derek or James F. as well and I think 3 is Evan, he's the only one with hair like that. The guy kissing JoJo looks like Luke to me, the haircut, hair colour and head shape all make me think of Luke.
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Post by Aunties_Love Sun May 29, 2016 7:52 pm

grace8136 wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:
in_denial wrote:

The photo is tagged 'San Telmo, Buenos Aires'.

FWIW, that pic would of been epi 6 in BA, Epi 7 is Mendoza.


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That's what confused us last night. But, as Ash pointed out- would SQT from a group date have a dinner like Jordan does? The other dates are already sleuthed to BA. The episode 7 RC is back in BA, so maybe they filmed Jordan's date before they left or when they got back from Mendoza before the RC???

ETA: Also, it looks like Alex may have been on a GD in episode 7.
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3451p468-the-bachelorette-12-jojo-fletcher-s-caps-sm-sleuthing-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers
The dinner date is from epi 5 when Jordan has his first ID.  She is in a sleeveless top yet the one in epi 6, the pic in question is with her in a long sleeved shirt with holes in the arms.  Wish I could find the right sc's right now.


ETA:  I found the pics that I wanted.  All are from this thread:

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3505p12-the-bachelorette-season-12-jojo-fletcher-scaps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers#964033






Jordan on epi 5 ID; note the short sleeve


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private time on epi 6:  note the long sleeve
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IMO, no matter what, they wouldn't go to back to Buenos Aires from Mendoza for one date when they were just there for the episode complete with a rose ceremony.  IMO, that doesn't make sense


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Post by Aunties_Love Sun May 29, 2016 8:10 pm

mindless wrote:
stuckinsc wrote:
boston1 wrote:

who is this guy with her against the wall??
I think 1 is Vinny, 2 is Robby, 3 I don't know, 4 is Wells, 5 is Alex and 6 is Chase.

I agree with this, except 5 could be Derek or James F. as well and I think 3 is Evan, he's the only one with hair like that. The guy kissing JoJo looks like Luke to me, the haircut, hair colour and head shape all make me think of Luke.

This is what I see with the guys there:

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