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Post by kikora Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:23 pm

Since some think Ben isn't making any decisions about their lives or anything else and seem to think it's all Lauren...

One thing we can rule out is Higgins not competing on Dancing With the Stars this season, unlike previous Bachelor contestants.

"You know, it kind of goes back to the whole thing -- there is one main goal for me now, and that's us, and I think right now, Lauren and I being together is my main concern," Higgins explains. "I don't think adding too much more to that right now is the right thing."

Ben's very clear on why HE has decided not to DWTS and that's because HE is clear on what's important is that he and Lauren are able to be together and focused on their relationship.

http://www.etonline.com/news/184554_ben_higgins_and_lauren_bushnell_show_off_massive_100k_neil_lane_engagement_ring/

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Post by LoveDovez Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:33 pm

KB_Mom wrote:I guess I watched a different ATFR last night- I thought BenLo were appropriately affectionate.  I was particularly struck by how they held hands  tightly the whole time on the ATFR sofa- like they were united and bonded in bracing for the usual CH questions.  Personally I  don't want or need to see the final couple practically fornicating on the AFTR couch to believe they are the real deal.JMO


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Post by Seabear Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:36 pm

Hi Katiebell.bestbud!

I would say that the final 5 gals all had their backers.  
JoJo and Lauren had the most ardent supporters IMO.

IMO the best thing about all the threads is the widely divergent opinions.  There are posters here who are hilarious with their snarky comments and that is my favorite part of the forum.  The humor and the laughs are the best.
There are also top notch sleuthers.  Often the info is discovered here first and then used by others elsewhere.

There were definitely strong opinions on who should be the next Bachelorette.  Several camps were hoping for their favorite gal.  GA was actually the source that discovered and announced JoJo had been chosen over Caila days before the public (RS) ran with the story.

Leah's black eye was never explained as far as I know?

I think the best thing is just to dive in and read some of the threads and you can get the gist of what is and was happening.

Right now the focus is shifting to sleuthing the cast and then once filming starts this week, the dates and locations on JoJo's Bachelorette season.

Just remember to always say JMO.  And most importantly have fun.  Welcome to the Wild Side.Hugesmile  laugh out loud laugh out loud

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Post by Katiebelle Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:49 pm

Seabear wrote:Hi Katiebell.bestbud!

I would say that the final 5 gals all had their backers.  
JoJo and Lauren had the most ardent supporters IMO.

IMO the best thing about all the threads is the widely divergent opinions.  There are posters here who are hilarious with their snarky comments and that is my favorite part of the forum.  The humor and the laughs are the best.
There are also top notch sleuthers.  Often the info is discovered here first and then used by others elsewhere.

There were definitely strong opinions on who should be the next Bachelorette.  Several camps were hoping for their favorite gal.  GA was actually the source that discovered and announced JoJo had been chosen over Caila days before the public (RS) ran with the story.

Leah's black eye was never explained as far as I know?

I think the best thing is just to dive in and read some of the threads and you can get the gist of what is and was happening.

Right now the focus is shifting to sleuthing the cast and then once filming starts this week, the dates and locations on JoJo's Bachelorette season.

Just remember to always say JMO.  And most importantly have fun.  Welcome to the Wild Side.Hugesmile  laugh out loud laugh out loud

JMO

Thanks @Seabear

This is just a fleeting visit to say hello. I think I'll go back to the unspoiled thread for the Bette as I'll never keep with all the posts here - especially because of the time zone issues. I'll always be behind - well actually - ahead if that makes sense.

I do plan to spend a few hours tonight browsing through the threads though - you have some brilliantly snarky posters. I'll try and go back to the moment at HTDs with JoJo's Mum. At the time I had wondered what you all had to say.


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Post by Alanna Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:35 pm

Ha, much to my chagrin, I could never feel the Lauren love either, but that doesn't mean Ben doesn't feel the love, madly, wildly, passionately even. This could be like an Emily situation, where she rubbed me (and other fans) the wrong way as a character but turned into a happy wife/mom. So who knows what's in store for Benlo. It'll be nice to have more successes in the Bach fam bam.


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Post by Seabear Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:39 pm

I always appreciate your opinions peggy regardless of whether we agree or not.  You are always true to yourself and I respect you for that.  This forum is all about having our own divergent opinions.  Please don't leave because some posters have forgotten to respect the tenants of decency toward you. Upset   I like you just the way you are. bestbud!
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Post by GuardianAngel Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:43 pm

Katiebelle wrote:Hello!  handwave

I have been hanging out in the unspoiled thread and I thought I’d come over and see what you have been up to and try and find some answers to some questions I have.

But Holy Moly Batman! I am completely gobsmacked!  wow

You guys sure have been busy.  I had no idea how big and popular this thread was. I am very impressed.  :claphands

It would take me weeks to read through all your posts – although I have read some that totally cracked me up – so I’m hoping you’ll answer my questions for me here if that’s ok.

1) When did you sleuth that Lauren was F1 and how?

2) Was one girl more popular with the posters than the others?  I liked Lauren for Ben but would have picked JoJo and Becca to be my friends.

3) Who was the least popular contestant? I couldn’t stand Emily. I thought she was a bully.

4) What did you think of the Leah black eye situation? I thought I was so clever remembering that she had a black eye in the preview of very first episode and really thought she was going to come back as we didn’t see the black eye before Ben booted her.  Was there any other blatant TPTB lies like that?

5) It also came out that they changed the order of the FS and Lauren was actually last. That completely changed things for me. Did they do that any other time or deliberately manipulate the edit to mislead us?

6) Did you sleuth any gossip or relevant info about the contestants that they didn’t show on the season?

7) I have only watched the franchise for a year but I have seen “RS” pop up a couple of times on the unspoiled thread and to be perfectly honest I have no idea what a RS is. I have looked in the abbreviations section and it’s not there. It does sound deliciously ominous though – kind of like ‘she went all RS on his azz!” What exactly is a RS?

8) My all-time favourite part of the whole season (and yes that does include all the mushy lovely stuff on ATFR) was JoJo’s mum taking a swig out of the champagne bottle. That was just brilliant television! I laughed so hard I gave myself the hiccups. What did everyone else think of that moment?

Many thanks and I love forward to see what you have to say. I hope I've posted this in the right place - we only have one thread over in Unspoiledland!

And a quick hello to our lovely friends @GuardianAngel, @sophienette, @Linds911, @Rolly, @sprite, @AllAboutLove, @rhondam, @KB_Mom,  @Mommyof1, @nothatgirl, @avacaroline, @Seabear, @Ladybug82, @emusha, @Litta123, @peggy0221, @CarrieA  (didn’t realise we had so many friends in the unspoiled thread until I tried to name you all! – apologies if I have left someone out) and all the other posters who have been so supportive of us over on the unspoiled thread. Having you pop over and say hello really helped.

Welcome to the other side @Katiebelle!! For those who may not know, Katie is one of many sleuthers in the Aussie and New Zealand threads where there are some pretty amazing sleuthers, without spoilers. She along with others stayed in the No Spoilers thread to watch the US season of the 'ette last season and Ben this season. yes


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Post by richmondrose Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:51 pm

Seabear wrote:I always appreciate your opinions peggy regardless of whether we agree or not.  You are always true to yourself and I respect you for that.  This forum is all about having our own divergent opinions.  Please don't leave because some posters have forgotten to respect the tenants of decency toward you. Upset   I like you just the way you are. bestbud!

thumbsup It would be so boring if everyone had the same thoughts and opinions. The more variety of thought, the better the conversation. imoaa
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Post by stuckinsc Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:51 pm

We all have our favorites. Never stop posting your opinion, GA and the mods work really hard for all opinions to be welcome.

I will never warm to Kaitlyn and Shawn, but I can honestly say they are a great fit for each other. So don't let a dislike of the final couple get you down.

Lauren is a cool customer, but I saw true joy from here about Ben at LCD and AFTR. I think she played the show very well, in some ways she reminded me of Helene from season 2. The key difference to me is that I do think that cool customer is just who Lauren is. From what Ben and Lauren have both said she has handled him acting like a complete moron with grace and class. I compare this to Emily with Brad. She won and still tortured Brad and made him pay for ever having any chemistry with anyone else. I hope that the happy comfortable vibe I see is real. But at the end of it all I will happily move on either way.

Sorry for the long post, but stay strong and use the foe button if you need. What I have found is that the poster you disagreed with most one season can be the one you agree with most another season and at the end of it all most of the posters are nice people who love this stupid show as much as I do.
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Post by veg_out Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:10 am

Based on their interviews, I see a couple still finding their footing. They honestly looked gorgeous yet exhausted, which is to be expected after the whirlwind 48 hours that they just had. I also imagine that the last few weeks have not been easy for them. The nerves and excitement probably took a toll on them. In light of all of that, they managed today like champs.

Do they feel like Jash to me? No. They feel a little bit like SeanCat to me.

It's good that they are both committing to this relationship, her moving, him declining DWTS. Only by sharing their lives will they continue to find their similarities and negotiate the little idiosyncrasies of both of their personalities. They both are strong personalities, or at least, they have definite preferences. With Ben being an only child, I think that he's used to things being done the way that he likes; Lauren, being the oldest, is used to leading, guiding, and setting the tone IMO. They are being tested, and I hope that they continue to grow in love.


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Post by Katiebelle Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:10 am

GuardianAngel wrote:
Katiebelle wrote:Hello!  handwave

I have been hanging out in the unspoiled thread and I thought I’d come over and see what you have been up to and try and find some answers to some questions I have.

But Holy Moly Batman! I am completely gobsmacked!  wow

You guys sure have been busy.  I had no idea how big and popular this thread was. I am very impressed.  :claphands

It would take me weeks to read through all your posts – although I have read some that totally cracked me up – so I’m hoping you’ll answer my questions for me here if that’s ok.

1) When did you sleuth that Lauren was F1 and how?

2) Was one girl more popular with the posters than the others?  I liked Lauren for Ben but would have picked JoJo and Becca to be my friends.

3) Who was the least popular contestant? I couldn’t stand Emily. I thought she was a bully.

4) What did you think of the Leah black eye situation? I thought I was so clever remembering that she had a black eye in the preview of very first episode and really thought she was going to come back as we didn’t see the black eye before Ben booted her.  Was there any other blatant TPTB lies like that?

5) It also came out that they changed the order of the FS and Lauren was actually last. That completely changed things for me. Did they do that any other time or deliberately manipulate the edit to mislead us?

6) Did you sleuth any gossip or relevant info about the contestants that they didn’t show on the season?

7) I have only watched the franchise for a year but I have seen “RS” pop up a couple of times on the unspoiled thread and to be perfectly honest I have no idea what a RS is. I have looked in the abbreviations section and it’s not there. It does sound deliciously ominous though – kind of like ‘she went all RS on his azz!” What exactly is a RS?

8) My all-time favourite part of the whole season (and yes that does include all the mushy lovely stuff on ATFR) was JoJo’s mum taking a swig out of the champagne bottle. That was just brilliant television! I laughed so hard I gave myself the hiccups. What did everyone else think of that moment?

Many thanks and I love forward to see what you have to say. I hope I've posted this in the right place - we only have one thread over in Unspoiledland!

And a quick hello to our lovely friends @GuardianAngel, @sophienette, @Linds911, @Rolly, @sprite, @AllAboutLove, @rhondam, @KB_Mom,  @Mommyof1, @nothatgirl, @avacaroline, @Seabear, @Ladybug82, @emusha, @Litta123, @peggy0221, @CarrieA  (didn’t realise we had so many friends in the unspoiled thread until I tried to name you all! – apologies if I have left someone out) and all the other posters who have been so supportive of us over on the unspoiled thread. Having you pop over and say hello really helped.

Welcome to the other side @Katiebelle!! For those who may not know, Katie is one of many sleuthers in the Aussie and New Zealand threads where there are some pretty amazing sleuthers, without spoilers. She along with others stayed in the No Spoilers thread to watch the US season of the 'ette last season and Ben this season. yes

Thanks @GuardianAngel for the lovely introduction.

Tēnā koutou katoa (Hello to you all)

Whakawhetai koe hoki ia ki ahau i konei (Thank you for having me here)

After a quick look at the spoiled threads I am absolutely amazed with the sleuthing skills, wit, banter and camaraderie you have all shown.

We think we are pretty clever and funny on the unspoiled thread (we do have a tendency to laugh at our own jokes as there are not many of us around) but would love for you all to pop in and have a chat during the Bette season. You might even see some old friends there as I think we have managed to guide some posters away from the "darkside" and into the "light" for the next season!





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Post by TrishB Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:17 am

Lucas15 wrote:
KB_Mom wrote:I wonder if having her wisdom teeth removed affected how her face,especially the cheeks,look.

I know in my case and also in my wife's case, we didn't have our wisdom teeth extracted until they started to cause a problem and that problem could well have been what made her cheeks look fuller. Extracting them would cure that problem but it would make her look slightly different in a before and after comparison. The after would be more representative of how she looked before she started having problems with her wisdom teeth.
JMHO

Being an oral surgeon, I can definitely tell you guys that having wisdom teeth or not, does not affect how your face looks (re: the before and after Lauren's face). The only thing is, if your wisdom teeth (all of them, at the same time, which hardly ever happens) are infected and very swollen, then you would see your face looking swollen as well. But this is just until you get antbiotics or/and anti inflammatories to help before you get them extracted. After you get your wisdom teeth extracted, and depending on the level of complication of the extractions, you may also have swelling making you look a little like a "chipmunk" Smiley But it is only a temporary post surgical reaction (we do give pre and post meds to prevent infection and swelling) So... in a nutshell, NO... Wisdom teeth (present or not) have nothing to do with Lauren's cheeks (or anyone else's for that matter) being "plumper" for over 2 months, and slimmer now Smiley I think it is the make up (she wore very little during the show, not even lipstick unless it was a natural blush) and maybe she did loose a couple of pounds.
On another note, very happy for Ben and Lauren! Both are great people, Ben is kind and caring, Lauren is so poised, well spoken, natural... Gorgeous couple! I have a feeling they will make it xox


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