The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - ATFR - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

Ben is just so over the show and having the questions of ILY's being thrown at him. He really looks annoyed and sort of wishing it would end. Whenever they ask him about the ILY's to two women he puts his head down or looks at Lauren to initiate the answers for him. I honestly think he can't wait to get out of the media frenzy so he doesn't have to talk about what happened on the show ever again.

It's so weird that a 2second isolated clip should be so over analysed. If you'd watched the 5 second before that you would have seen them kissing and saying I love you.

I caught that clip as soon as it happened last night and it was nothing more than someone hollering at him at that exact moment...

lightredemption wrote:It's so weird that a 2second isolated clip should be so over analysed. If you'd watched the 5 second before that you would have seen them kissing and saying I love you.

Exactly. It's like whoever made that clip either clipped that part only on purpose and ignored them saying "i love you" to each other just a second before or were being obtuse because their pick didn't win and needed to feel validated in their thought that Ben made a mistake.

aviej wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:

mindless wrote:I don't know. "My feelings for you are stronger than anything I've ever felt before" and "You're my best friend" (or something along those lines) don't exactly spell "goodbye" to me.

This..he's rather clueless. Why can't he take a little ownership over his ILY diarrhea? It would come across so much better. Whoever wrote those talking points for him that he repeated ad nauseam  missed the mark.

I find interview Lauren so much different than TB Lauren. The change is remarkable.

Between the ex Chad and Ben, I feel JoJo was over being dumped on at the end. She may have been a little hopeful but appeared sadly realistic about what was about to happen. No need to have a meltdown as it wasn't changing anything and besides, he cries enough for both of them.

As per the bolded, I agree. It was a huge contrast to the Lauren from the show. I never thought the Lauren from the show would such a plunging neckline and a high cut slit in dress for the Jimmy Kimmel show. Neither did I think that she could talk so much. It's interesting though that only now (even while on camera) that we are seeing a huge difference in her personality. I don't recall when last I have seen an F1 have such a remarkable change post-show, IMO. So I'm left a bit confused as to who Lauren is, TBH.

I know! Interview Lauren is awesome, wish we'd seen more of her on the show. I'm loving that Lauren and it's so funny how relaxed and at ease on camera she seems, when she never did on the show. She actually seemed to really be enjoying the appearances, which I wasn't really expecting from her. That's kind of the woman I kept expecting to see who Ben loved so much but it never came through to me during the show.

Ben did look really uncomfortable to me all ATFR, but I don't assume that has to do with him and Lauren. He's probably had a hard few weeks and is so ready for this to be over. But I do see a different dynamic in their interviews with Lauren taking the lead and Ben not looking at her with the same adoration/infatuation from the show. It's just different. I kind of expected more ooey gooey stuff from them but again I don't think it implies any problems, just the move from bubble infatuation to real life relationship probably.

I loved their families on stage at the end. A sweet ending. Time will tell as with anyone, I wish them well and hope TPTB can replicate such a great Bachelor season again next year and in the meantime, I am sooooooo ready for Jojo as Bachelorette.

Last time we had a change of personality was with Emily.
Gone, the "sweet" Em from the show...
She appeared so different on ATFR and later on. Brad must have been so surprised...and disappointed.
Could be the same with Ben.,,

Lauren has brought up twice about Ben's breathing. First on Kimmel and now on the People video. He did not look amused either. Rule number one Lauren, NEVER and I repeat never belittle your mate.

Mommyof1 wrote:Lauren has brought up twice about Ben's breathing.  First on Kimmel and now on the People video.  He did not look amused either.  Rule number one Lauren, NEVER and I repeat never belittle your mate.  

Especially with a boy whose ego is as sensitive as Bennie's. Ma is watching somewhere scandalized right now.

kraft33 wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:Why is being all lovey dovey a sign of anything ?
Sometimes the OTT affection proves the exact opposite . Therein could lie the faking. They were a normal in love couple with family support and love.

I guess I meant the lovey dovey feeling I was hoping to feel when I finally saw them together at atfr. You are right it's not a sign of anything except my own interpretations and feelings I felt when seeing them. All just my opinion. Doesn't prove anything, just sharing my thoughts.

I felt the same. I did really see their love story during the show, the way he looked at her was so telling, so I was expecting more last night. Perhaps it's just that the chase is over, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I mean it's been 4 months so obviously they're at a different place now and not in that infatuation phase anymore. And there was a lot going on, so I can't really blame him for being distracted. Time will tell.

I guess I watched a different ATFR last night- I thought BenLo were appropriately affectionate. I was particularly struck by how they held hands tightly the whole time on the ATFR sofa- like they were united and bonded in bracing for the usual CH questions. Personally I don't want or need to see the final couple practically fornicating on the AFTR couch to believe they are the real deal.JMO

I am not going to take a long night as any indicator. Nor would I want some random second with me and my SO taken as an indication of how we are doing.

Time will tell. The first tell to me is if Lauren delays the move. If she moves like planned in a few weeks that is a good sign. As I have said before I also like they are going to Denver and not staying in LA.

I really don't see an issue with their response to questions on Kimmel, People, GMA etc. They aren't brining these things up randomly they are answering questions. But I think they have learned they can't win everyone over and some will find issues with no matter what they say or do. Either they shouldn't say things or if they don't they are being over the top and hiding something.

I give them a little over 50% shot at getting married which is a higher percent than I normally would guess. Either way I wish them the best in the future.

I have been watching Ben in all the interviews after last night and I think that he's a little quiet because to him this relationship has been kept in the dark for so long, he must be adjusting to all the attention to them. They have a long interview at the ABCNY7 Facebook page and Ben still looks at Lauren the same as before, with the same light in his eyes, stares forever, amazed and almost as if he couldn't believe that they're finally out in the open. I do think that they both matured into the relationship. Almost like an old couple!

What I like to think is that Ben feels a little selfish now that he has to share Lauren with the rest of the world. hihi He might want to show off the relationship, but he wants Lauren all to himself. And steal her away from the cameras. But that's just the fangirl in me.

I think we're all still getting used to the FIANCE BEN. I do admit that a part of me misses the BACHELOR BEN. I guess in all my happiness for Ben and Lauren, there is a tiny tiny part that cries for saying goodbye to Bachelor Ben. *cries (Just like what Elan said in his latest Instagram post, so hard saying goodbye to the kids!!!)