The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - MTP -LCD - FRC - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

IMO I don't think you can tell who he's saying that to because it would depend on where the girl is standing and we don't know that. Just say if Jojo was standing right by his feet he would be looking down more than if she was a foot away.

^^ Don't they usually hold hands at the FRC? It would seem to me they would be quite close to each other while they are talking.

Mommyof1 wrote:^^ Don't they usually hold hands at the FRC?  It would seem to me they would be quite close to each other while they are talking.  

Probably not always, but I have no clue. Do we know where he even said that? It could have been where the final rose is, by the limo, or somewhere in between?

Mommyof1 wrote:That's a tough call.  JoJo is considerably shorter than Ben.  I don't feel his gaze at the FRC is looking downward enough to be talking to JoJo.  Jmo.

Hard to tell...both girls would (presumably) be wearing heels.

Seo2 wrote:

agentcurls wrote:^He was saying "Any other time I couldn't imagine saying good bye to you" in that SC. (from preview at the end of epi 6)

Shown saying it or a voice over? If the former, then please disregard my comment !  

Not a VO. I see him say these words.

Eagle Eye wrote:

agentcurls wrote:I know Jamaica is humid, but Ben's hair went through some changes that eventful day (or was it two days?) 

I don't think his hair is all that different. The second and third screencaps have obviously been flipped because his mole is magically on his right cheek instead of his left. But that spiky little piece on the left side of his forehead looks the same in all the images. It would have been nice if the hair and makeup people had given him a mirror before the F1 arrived, though, because his 'do in that last screencap could use a little work.

Wonder why they bother to flip images, yet can't be bothered to hide the sequential order of the photographs they release?  I guess the limo one could fool the general audience, but others seem to be about hiding the direction of the sunlight, which the general audience is not looking at.

Would they go so far as to change the numbers on the photographs to mislead us?

tennischick80 wrote:Would they go so far as to change the numbers on the photographs to mislead us?

Would the numbers be the same if it was taken with different cameras ?

sde1041 wrote:

tennischick80 wrote:Would they go so far as to change the numbers on the photographs to mislead us?

Would the numbers be the same if it was taken with different cameras ?

Good call. Possibly not.

sde1041 wrote:

tennischick80 wrote:Would they go so far as to change the numbers on the photographs to mislead us?

Would the numbers be the same if it was taken with different cameras ?

Possibly, but I believe the numbers have always been right.

I have to say that as much as I would like to see RS be wrong, all signs point to Lauren B. TPTB did a great job at creating doubt, but I still believe the spoiler. Both final 2 women are beautiful and seem so sweet. Ben is lucky.

Uggh, I hate to say this, but the only words we see Ben say are "saying goodbye to you" in the phrase "Any other time I couldn't imagine saying goodbye to you..." I initially noted that whole section as a "point for JoJo" until I looked for the part we see him say.

He could be saying that to Lauren, explaining to her that he couldn't say "goodbye" to her. Uggh, this finale will be a punch to the gut if he says to Jo that "any other time I couldn't imagine saying goodbye to you." A person can't help but think, "But now you are. You're letting me go."

At the moment, I think Lauren is the F1. There were a few things left in the edit in episode 2 and 3 that seem to support this ending. Two caveats: 1. Sometimes they put together definitely episode 1 but possibly up to episode 3 during filming. They use the information that they have at the time to start the arcs. You can see a bit of a change in JoJo's arc after episode 3. Had Ben had a change of heart at end of season, these references would be null. 2. I may read the Us Weekly article and change my mind entirely!