The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

I hope one of the HTD families gives Jojo a hard time because she'll be basically doing what her bros hated Ben doing. If they all show some class then it proves you can still dignify a person you don't care for. If Jojo wasn't the Bette then this issue would have died. With Jojo being the Bette, her bros will be hypocrites for supporting their sis walking in Ben's footsteps imo.

BigJ52 wrote:From Reality Steve today. I wonder what he knows about Jordan Rodgers?

"I know this is just word of mouth, but considering what I heard halfway through last season that Ben was all about Lauren, take this for what it’s worth: I’m hearing that this season is the JoJo and Jordan show, and everyone else can see it. Doesn’t mean she’ll end up with him in the end because there’s still plenty of time left and anything can happen. But lets just hope she doesn’t end up with Jordan. That will not end well for her. I wanna see how it plays out before I start getting into details regarding that in the coming weeks."

Since when does RS care who the lead ends up with? Doesn't he usually boast that he doesn't care?

ForeverLove wrote:I hope one of the HTD families gives Jojo a hard time because she'll be basically doing what her bros hated Ben doing. If they all show some class then it proves you can still dignify a person you don't care for. If Jojo wasn't the Bette then this issue would have died. With Jojo being the Bette, her bros will be hypocrites for supporting their sis walking in Ben's footsteps imo.

I really think that HTD, was her and her families audition for her to become the Bette. They passed as they were all willing to play along with TPTB.

I do agree that it will be interesting how they react to the F2 this time around.

stuckinsc wrote:

Sprite wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

Add to that he was mature enough to not accept the lead when he was not ready for the serious relationship or marriage. If he was mean to Ben perhaps it was because he could tell that Ben was stringing his little sister along, as a lead he would recognize it and he knew the next step was Ben having sex with his little sister. I give him a pass if he was mean to Ben. JMO. Also JMO if Ben really knew Lauren was the one he should have skipped the heavy PDA with JoJo.

His little sister didn't have to have sex with him. Nobody is forced to have sex. As for leading people along, that is the show. I can pretty much guarantee that we will be having this same conversation during/after JoJo's season...particularly if RS is right and she was all about Jordan from the start and everyone could see it.

I don't disagree. But usually we cheer families that give the lead a hard time, but Ben Patton gets lots of flack here. None of these people are victims, not JoJo and certainly not Ben H. JMO

You can't speak for everyone so "we" isn't appropriate here. In my case, I've never liked the jerky family members who give the lead trouble.

Pardon me. In general the board has cheered and like any generality it is not true for everyone. So forgive me the generalization.

Yeah, I think that would be better off saying as your opinion. I don't cheer anyone who goes on this show. In the case of HTD--anyone causing drama or waves falls in my idiot category.

I think that Ben Patton received flak because he was a lead on a reality show and although he might have taken a less vocal role than the other brother the implication was given and he apparently agreed by his silence. Just the pot calling the kettle black that's what I see.

Why be so grandiose in behavior when the ultimate goal was to get JoJo the same role that was being harshly questioned

Idlemess wrote:I think that Ben Patton received flak because he was a lead on a reality show and although he might have taken a less vocal role than the other brother the implication was given and he apparently agreed by his silence. Just the pot calling the kettle black that's what I see.

Why be so grandiose in behavior when the ultimate goal was to get JoJo the same role that was being harshly questioned

Totally agree....Like I said, they're going to be hypocrites now that their sis is the Bette. Like her intentions are or will be pure ! By BP's condescending glares and looks, he was totally throwing shade at Ben Imo. classless is my opinion regarding Matt and BenP.

They way I perceive it, is the brothers or her family as a whole were simply following the script tptb desired during their HTD.
I don't know if what was portrayed was really how they felt.
JMOAA

ForeverLove wrote:

Idlemess wrote:I think that Ben Patton received flak because he was a lead on a reality show and although he might have taken a less vocal role than the other brother the implication was given and he apparently agreed by his silence. Just the pot calling the kettle black that's what I see.

Why be so grandiose in behavior when the ultimate goal was to get JoJo the same role that was being harshly questioned

Totally agree....Like I said, they're going to be hypocrites now that their sis is the Bette. Like her intentions are or will be pure ! By BP's condescending glares and looks, he was totally throwing shade at Ben Imo. classless is my opinion regarding Matt and BenP.

I watched Ready for Love. Ben Patton was the biggest phony on the show and came across very fake & self-centered, the complete opposite of Tim Lopez, IMO. Ben Patton led that girl on, got engaged and broke it off asap. Perhaps Ben Patton thought Ben Higgins was like him on the show. On the other hand, Tim Lopez (loved him) didn't get engaged at the end and just took it to real life with Jenna and they dated, got engaged and are now happily married.

Des' brother was way more harsh to Sean IMO and she ended up being the next lead and finding love despite her brother being a supposed hypocrite. A non-approving family happens every season. Also, IMO, every single contestant and every single lead lacks a bit of class for willingly going on this reality television show, so Ben and Matt Patton being unclassy to Ben, who dated 25 women at once and told two of them he was in love with them, will never make sense to me.

Some are more classy than other during the show and post show, but nothing about this show is classy.

Even Jojo said that she didn't think it was wrong that Ben said he loved two girls. It was in her E vid. They understood the circumstances. BP should have understood the feelings developed for more than one person jmo.