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Post by mysthelma Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:19 pm

I feel like Chris Manson says the same things each season, I can't take him seriously.

He is just a spin doctor who spews BS. They know exactly who the want for Bette.


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Post by Mommyof2 Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:21 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:Chris doing what he does best...

Host Chris Harrison on Bachelor Ben Higgins Telling 2 Women He Loves Them: That's ‘Not Something You Can Script'
It was definitely a caught-on-camera, impromptu feeling and emotion," Harrison said. "I mean, honestly if he had come to me and asked my opinion I probably would have said: 'Don't do that!' But he just left himself go, in that moment, which is a special, wonderful thing."

As for the finale, which will air March 14, Harrison said "what's going to happen now is so deep and so emotional that I think it's just incredible to watch."

"You've seen how emotional Ben gets – he does pull at least a ¾ Mesnick," Harrison said. "He really narrowed it down to two women that he loves and he knows that he's going to hurt somebody and he knows that he's going to lose somebody he loves."

What qualifies as 3/4 of a Mesnick?

I believe he is referring to the emotional throwing oneself over the balcony, but no switcheroo. Jmo.
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:21 pm

Thinking about what Chris says, can you imagine Lauren getting the unromantic ily and someone else the romantic ? Based on the newest ILY-gate tape? Also someone mentioned the bachsnap where Ben says on Monday he might say ILY's to somebody or something like that. Would he take it so lightly if one of them , meaning the unromantic one was his F2?

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Post by Tiggerlgh Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:31 pm

We have seen three ILYs which one are we calling which?

Will have to see on Monday but two appear sweet/romantic


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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:31 pm

Mommyof1 wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:Chris doing what he does best...

Host Chris Harrison on Bachelor Ben Higgins Telling 2 Women He Loves Them: That's ‘Not Something You Can Script'
It was definitely a caught-on-camera, impromptu feeling and emotion," Harrison said. "I mean, honestly if he had come to me and asked my opinion I probably would have said: 'Don't do that!' But he just left himself go, in that moment, which is a special, wonderful thing."

As for the finale, which will air March 14, Harrison said "what's going to happen now is so deep and so emotional that I think it's just incredible to watch."

"You've seen how emotional Ben gets – he does pull at least a ¾ Mesnick," Harrison said. "He really narrowed it down to two women that he loves and he knows that he's going to hurt somebody and he knows that he's going to lose somebody he loves."

What qualifies as 3/4 of a Mesnick?

I believe he is referring to the emotional throwing oneself over the balcony, but no switcheroo.  Jmo.  

Kinda shows his angst over hurting and saying goodbye to someone he loves vs being confused who to choose imo. That is what Jason went through right? Or was Jason confused who to pick?

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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:32 pm

Tiggerlgh wrote:We have seen three ILYs which one are we calling which?

Will have to see on Monday but two appear sweet/romantic

The latest one posted up thread . On snapchat he said , he might say Ily to somebody. Maybe more than once .
Someone posted that here today .

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Post by Al Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:36 pm

ForeverLove wrote:
Tiggerlgh wrote:We have seen three ILYs which one are we calling which?

Will have to see on Monday but two appear sweet/romantic

The latest one posted up thread . On snapchat he said , he might say Ily to somebody. Maybe more than once .
Someone posted that here today .
Lauren seems to get it twice, the "I've known I'm in love you..." which is one of the sweet ones, and "I do love you" which seems more straightforward.

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Post by 2observe Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:46 pm

Lucas15 wrote:
tennischick80 wrote:

I love this, Lucas...but, wouldn't Ben have already heard from Lauren before his FD with Jojo (she supposedly was last).

It is possible he did love both women, but loved Lauren more and couldn't let her go...like we've heard from vo's and previews. It may be just that clear cut.

We will see JoJo's FD aired last but IMO it was not filmed last - IMO filming order was Caila (11/7) JoJo (11/9) and Lauren (11/11). There just wasn't enough time for a FD and day off before 11/7, so Ben could not have heard anything Lauren says until after he had already had two other FD. And IMO it was the producers (not Lauren's Dad's concerns) that kept Lauren from telling Ben she's in love with him on the HTD as she had planned.

One other thing to consider as we watch the FD next Monday. Many previous leads have described how stressful this part of filming is. Weight loss, skin breakouts, hair loss and physical and emotional exhaustion are just a few of the things I've heard them mention. The show could make this easier on the lead but they don't want to - they want the lead stressed out and vulnerable to their manipulations. IMO we should expect to see some changes - and weirdness - in Ben's body language from now on because of the state he's in now and those changes started with the first FD on 11/7.
I thought that the order of the Fantasy dates was the same as the order of the HTD RC.  In other words, Lauren was called first so she gets the first Fantasy date and Jojo was called last and so she gets the last Fantasy date.  My guess is that Lauren and Jojo are the F2 women.  If this is true, then Ben would have seen Lauren before he saw Jojo.


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Post by Diana Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:57 pm

The order was definitely Caila then JoJo then Lauren.
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Post by 2observe Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:58 pm

Diana wrote:The order was definitely Caila then JoJo then Lauren.
Has this been confirmed?
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:59 pm

Diana wrote:The order was definitely Caila then JoJo then Lauren.


I just love the turtle date . It's so hard for those little turtles to survive . I thought that was a very cool date.

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Post by Diana Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:02 pm

2observe wrote:
Diana wrote:The order was definitely Caila then JoJo then Lauren.
Has this been confirmed?  
It has to be. Caila's date was spoiled and had to be the first one due to the travel time from the F4 RC. Two days later a helicopter date was tweeted about which we know is JoJo that leaves Lauren to be last.
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