The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Episode 9 - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

ForeverLove wrote:

Diana wrote:The order was definitely Caila then JoJo then Lauren.

I just love the turtle date . It's so hard for those little turtles to survive . I thought that was a very cool date.

avacaroline wrote:

sosleepy wrote:Woah man, everyone needs to calm the heck down! Lol. This show is NOT real life under normal circumstances. Even worse case scenario and Ben really "fell in (Bachelor bubble) love" with JoJo, and told her, and was super confused... It doesn't spell doom for Ben and Lauren necessarily. It's how they are handling it now, in real life. Let's take a look at some past success couples and what they dealt with during filming:

Des: Chris wouldn't have even been her pick if Brooks stayed! She told the cameras and Brooks over and over she was in love with him and he was the one! Chris and Des have now been married a year!

Ashley: she slept with Ben F. (Ewwwww). And she let him propose. She's been married to JP for a few years + kid!

Jason: he told someone else he LOVED her and slept with her AND friggen PICKED her. Now he's married to Molly for like 6 years + a kid.

It's about how they are handling it now. If Ben is upfront with Lauren about everything, if she is even a smidge understanding about the odd circumstances they were in and realizes he wasn't even really hers until FRC day, and they have good communication, they should be fine.

I don't hate Ben. I think he's doing a great job being in the moment, being kind, and all around being a good Bachelor. He shouldn't have told another woman he loves her, but I can see how this could happen. I feel bad for him.

THIS^^^^^

LOTS of alcohol + lack of sleep + stress + emotional and psychological manipulation + the bachelor bubble = NOTHING THAT RESEMBLES NORMALCY. Nothing about this show is what would happen in real life, so it's not going to fit in to the nice little box that we all want it to. Because of his out of control puppy love for Lauren (especially coming off that emotional HTD), I think production went in to Jamaica, desperate to salvage the story line. I'm guessing he was being puppeteered to the point that he probably didn't know which end was up, had too much to drink, and threw out the "I love you" - which, by the way, to me looked like a frat boy saying it to his pledge brother after a keger.  It's possible that waking up the next day and being faced with the realization of what he had said to JoJo (?), is what drove him in to Lauren's arms for good.

Lauren seems to have a good head on her shoulders and clearly has a strong relationship with the other girls post show. For the most part, this whole season was a giant love fest.  It's not unrealistic to think that she understands that Ben formed strong relationships with some of the women that were hard to sort thru - what's real and what isn't.... do I love this person or am I IN LOVE WITH THIS PERSON - It's such an accelerated process.....it's not hard to imagine how feelings can be heighten and confusing.  I just think they all have a greater understanding of the bachelor bubble than we on the outside could ever have.  

I guess what I'm saying is that it's not a stretch for me to believe that Lauren (or any F1) is capable of showing the lead the grace and forgiveness that is needed for them to navigate thru the crap storm that this show creates.

Julie81 wrote:I agree and I've thought that for a while now.

agentcurls wrote:What if the "ILY, but..." went to Caila as a separate entity, but it didn't count as part of the other "I told two women I love them" scenario?
I just don't see Ben saying a traditional ILY to Caila. Nope. Not over JoJo, imo.