The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

SarahD wrote:- Lauren has been traveling to far away places with her family. She seems to be drawing support from her fam. This is he biggest red flag for me because I find it strange that if you're the F1 coming off from the TV show and trying to make it in the real world with the guy who put you through hell and back, I would think you won't go to such places that are so far away for long periods of time without your guy.

The finale hasn't aired yer so she can't go anywhere in public with her guy. I would think this would be an excellent (and perhaps the last) time she could go anywhere with "just" her family. The "real world" for Lauren doesn't start until March 14th - 8 days from today.

I do understand perhaps they have scheduled vacations but her father's medical conference, which is work-related, is probably not the first thing I'll go to if I want to spend time with my new guy. That's just me.

Anyway, I think I saw two additional links that Jojo and Ben were in the same place after filming (at least based on their SM posts).

SarahD wrote:I do understand perhaps they have scheduled vacations but her father's medical conference, which is work-related, is probably not the first thing I'll go to if I want to spend time with my new guy. That's just me.

Anyway, I think I saw two additional links that Jojo and Ben were in the same place after filming (at least based on their SM posts).

Where and when?

SarahD wrote:I do understand perhaps they have scheduled vacations but her father's medical conference, which is work-related, is probably not the first thing I'll go to if I want to spend time with my new guy. That's just me.

Anyway, I think I saw two additional links that Jojo and Ben were in the same place after filming (at least based on their SM posts).

At this point in time, they can only spend time together during ABC/Bach planned safe house visits. In the past, these have typically happened roughly every other weekend for 2-3 days at a time in LA. Why not fly out to Hawaii (likely free for her being a Flight Attendent) and spend 3-4 days in Hawaii with the fam? She couldn't be with Ben anyway. And she wasn't gone long.

pander3575 wrote:

SarahD wrote:I do understand perhaps they have scheduled vacations but her father's medical conference, which is work-related, is probably not the first thing I'll go to if I want to spend time with my new guy. That's just me.

Anyway, I think I saw two additional links that Jojo and Ben were in the same place after filming (at least based on their SM posts).

Where and when?

I posted in the SM discussion threads. Seemed to me that Ben and Jojo were in NY/NJ and Hawaii at the same time after filming.

When was Ben in Hawaii? I posted before that JoJo was in Hawaii around 12/21 from a IG posting by her brother's girlfriend.

Apparently the photographer, valerie darling, is lauren's neighbour. I doubt that lauren would confide in her about being engaged. I think valerie got caught up in the moment and when she realized that some were running with her mistake, she deleted the hashtag. I'm back to sitting on the fence.

I've noticed that one of JoJo's besties posts very supportive and enthusiastic commentary on Twitter every Monday night as if she's totally in the dark about what's going to happen.

I mention this because it kinda begs the question..how many people can they really tell what happens (even if rumors are abound)? Or, do people proclaiming to know ..really just make assumptions or an educated guess based on behavior?

richmondrose wrote:Apparently the photographer, valerie darling, is lauren's neighbour. I doubt that lauren would confide in her about being engaged. I think valerie got caught up in the moment and when she realized that some were running with her mistake, she  deleted the hashtag. I'm back to sitting on the fence.

If she's her neighbor, and from her love for Lauren, they seem pretty close, I'd say she knows. Plus, if she didn't know why would she hashtag engaged? If I didn't know for sure I sure wouldn't put that because I would kinda be worried it would sting a little bit.

SarahD wrote:snipped..

Anyway, I think the reverse Womack is Ben sending both home but asks one of them back. Fleiss has also referred to it as Besnick. So I'm not sure. This might be a Brad / Jason combo.  

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Regarding MF - that was ME that created the nick name Besnick in my tweet to him which he retweeted.


Sophienette, Mike Fleiss and Robert Mills Retweeted you

Feb 27:@BachSpoilersFan   Two more weeks till @benhiggi pulls a Besnick!  Brought to you by @Millsy11374 and @fleissmeister #BesnickCountdown #BachelorNation

Regarding the reverse Womack, as we know, Brad didn't choose any of the F2. The reverse of that would be choosing both F1 and F2. He was referencing the two ILY's.

GuardianAngel wrote:

SarahD wrote:snipped..

Anyway, I think the reverse Womack is Ben sending both home but asks one of them back. Fleiss has also referred to it as Besnick. So I'm not sure. This might be a Brad / Jason combo.  

snipped..

Regarding MF - that was ME that created the nick name Besnick in my tweet to him which he retweeted.


Sophienette, Mike Fleiss and Robert Mills Retweeted you

Feb 27:@BachSpoilersFan   Two more weeks till @benhiggi pulls a Besnick!  Brought to you by @Millsy11374 and @fleissmeister #BesnickCountdown #BachelorNation

Regarding the reverse Womack, as we know, Brad didn't choose any of the F2. The reverse of that would be choosing both F1 and F2. He was referencing the two ILY's.

Of only you could collect royalties for inventing "The Besnick". You might have struck gold with that one!

GuardianAngel wrote:

SarahD wrote:snipped..

Anyway, I think the reverse Womack is Ben sending both home but asks one of them back. Fleiss has also referred to it as Besnick. So I'm not sure. This might be a Brad / Jason combo.  

snipped..

Regarding MF - that was ME that created the nick name Besnick in my tweet to him which he retweeted.


Sophienette, Mike Fleiss and Robert Mills Retweeted you

Feb 27:@BachSpoilersFan   Two more weeks till @benhiggi pulls a Besnick!  Brought to you by @Millsy11374 and @fleissmeister #BesnickCountdown #BachelorNation

Regarding the reverse Womack, as we know, Brad didn't choose any of the F2. The reverse of that would be choosing both F1 and F2. He was referencing the two ILY's.

Thanks for the clarification.