The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

jupi wrote:

agentcurls wrote:Added a few things to this list, humor me:  

Lauren F1:
Spoiler
Undeniable attraction & bond
special 1-on-1 time to walk thru Mex City
Photo of thier first interaction at mansion
Ben wowed upon first glance
Blindside references (JoJo, Becca, Ben) 
Family seems happy/excited
Friends of Ben's following her SM
Possible Twitter clues ("fixer upper" references)
Her quieter SM activity, sans promos
Ben's trips to LA
Other contestants commented on thier obvious connection
Not much is said about Lauren in Ben's ITMs (would give too much away?) 
Personal invitation to 1-on-1 in Indiana & in his everyday element 
Caila & JoJo being more guarded, the relationships never catch up
JoJo's busy SM activity (preparing for next step post-Ben?)
*edited* JoJo going through motions to get 'Ette role
Us Weekly story (were they right about Des/Chris or Team Brooks all the way?)
Lauren is emo in ITMs (per edit, usually F1)
TPTB have held back in previews LauBen confessions for later time to get max impact possibly
Season preview: "what we have is real (hugs Caila) and scary (w.fall jump with JoJo) and amazing (kisses Amanda in hot tub) and just (kisses Lauren H.) incredible (kisses Caila FD NP) No Lauren B. in sight
Season preview: no LB profession of feelings or love in person; but one JoJo confession in person


Foiler/upset:
Spoiler put out quite early in season
LauBen too obvious after 7 epis?
Blinding viewers w/LauBen in edit post-spoiler so other relationships go under the radar? 
Foiler was overturned by SnapchatGate last season, when will another foiler strike?
Slow burn vs. hot flame
The substance of what Ben says about JoJo in the edit
Doubts/fears expressed by both JoJo & Caila in the edit
Curious you tube channel dedicated to Lauren: "xBushnellBachelorettex"
MF's comment about this season being his 2nd fave after Jolly's
"3/4 of a Mesnick" reference
JoJo's less detached SM compared to Lauren (a more positive experience for her?)
Since when has MF given us a straight-up love story with minimal wavering in edit?
"girlfriend" vs "wife" references
Season preview "It's not often in life that you get the opportunity (FD boat embrace w/Caila) to shake things up (LauBen kiss on FD beach) I want to come out of this a better man for my wife" (BenJo fireworks kiss)
Per edit: Will imperfect Ben be ok with Lauren? She admitted she was very picky to Ben. Dad also pointed it out. She seems pretty concerned about how Ben sees her. Why didn't she brush off the Leah stuff? Why wasn't she more confident? Could it be b/c someone called her out on being less than perfect. I see a theme here.
Ben saying mid-way thru he didn't have to question who Lauren was anymore vs. JoJo who he is so comfortable w/ and whom he can be himself with[/b]
With so many "blindside" references, is the audience the ones who will be? 

JMHO's

Great list, @agentcurls! While I'm pretty convinced that Lauren is indeed F1, I agree that it's important to keep sleuthing.

For the "girlfriend vs wife" point, I'd like to add that Ben said in a VO after Lauren's first 1-on-1 that “Tonight feels like how I'd want the first date to be with my wife.”

Also, other posters have sleuthed out a couple things that perhaps could be added to the list:

Lauren F1
- Ben might have accidentally liked (then probably quickly un-liked) one of Lauren's pictures on Instagram. Someone CMIIW, but I don't think it's been determined yet if the screenshot is real or not

(Source: https://twitter.com/JalaynaS/status/695993317230845953)


Foiler/Upset

joelle_fletcher Sooo tonight, this happens! Thank you @cubs for sharing your stomping grounds and giving me a memory that will last a lifetime #wrigleyfield #TheBachelor

(Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/BB0GXQugKYf/)

- In the caption of the above photo, JoJo originally wrote "us" instead of "me".

Alanna wrote:I don't remember Trista wanting to name her daughter Charlie. I remember her telling Charlie that she wants a baby named Blake, which she eventually got but with a different man

As for Jojo f1, no way imo. Ben is way, way too infatuated with the woman he can never have irl (in his mind, anyway) to choose anyone but Lauren. It's like Brad and Emily imo. Whether or not she's right for him or not is irrelevant, she's the one that's the unattainable one.

Mommyof1 wrote:Isn't this season over yet?  

iamreal2u wrote:ABC might have foiled their own show with this video Disland60  You see Ben picking up the last rose and giving Lauren.  The first night Lauren did not get the last rose.

nannymargie wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:ABC might have foiled their own show with this video Disland60  You see Ben picking up the last rose and giving Lauren.  The first night Lauren did not get the last rose.

Didn't Lauren get the first rose at the ceremony that first night?

iamreal2u wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:ABC might have foiled their own show with this video Disland60  You see Ben picking up the last rose and giving Lauren.  The first night Lauren did not get the last rose.

Didn't Lauren get the first rose at the ceremony that first night?

Not sure but it shows Ben picking up the last rose(no more roses on table) and Lauren walking up to receive it.  Not sure what Disney was portraying but it sure seems to be pointing to Lauren as F1.  Thinking someone mentioned before, "why Lauren?"

I like watching both couples together and seeing how they will grow and fade.  It will make for an interesting finale because without that, I'd be totally bored by this season.

ETA:  I don't think TPTB are worried that it's obviously Lauren as F1.  It's more how it'll happen and the emotional fallout for Ben that is the hook for the end of the season.

Mommyof1 wrote:Isn't this season over yet?