The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

agentcurls wrote:In episode 9 Ben's VO said "telling Lauren I love her has complicated things"...

Maybe the Bensick reference is just to mess with the audience. 

It's a long shot, but it could mean that he really was all in with Lauren for most of his journey but had a change of heart at the 12th hour during filming instead of post-show. Hence 3/4 of a Mesnick and not 4/4.

2observe wrote:

pander3575 wrote:Iimo he's calling his parents to let them know. He called them the first night so why not the last?

That still doesn't explain why he needed to say that he didn't want to lose her right before he pulls out the phone.  jmo

sde1041 wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

pander3575 wrote:Iimo he's calling his parents to let them know. He called them the first night so why not the last?

I'm starting to wonder if the voice that says  hello is a Vo of Ben's mom but, it's just a Vo . The real voice will be Lauren's dad? To ask for Lauren's hand . Jmho.

I am not sure about that and would need to go back to check...but this woman voice saying hello reminded me of the one when the twin called her sister about her 2-1 date to come. Could it be a VO to add confusion ?
Just throwing a thought....

sophienette wrote:

sde1041 wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

I'm starting to wonder if the voice that says  hello is a Vo of Ben's mom but, it's just a Vo . The real voice will be Lauren's dad? To ask for Lauren's hand . Jmho.

I am not sure about that and would need to go back to check...but this woman voice saying hello reminded me of the one when the twin called her sister about her 2-1 date to come. Could it be a VO to add confusion ?
Just throwing a thought....

of course everyone is allowed their opinion, but Lucas did a good compare and voice analysis and the Hello seems to come from Ben's mum

ForeverLove wrote:But aren't previews designed to slant things? Like how I thought one of the ily's from Ben during FD previews didn't sound romantic , but in the context of the show , it made more sense. What I'm learning is F1 in previews is mostly hidden. I think Lauren's crying in her PI is in response to Ben telling her on their LCD that he's conflicted . His mind is in thousand places. She's understanding that he could love another ...more. She just doesn't know how things will turn out. Imo

Mommyof1 wrote:I've been thinking about which F1 would be "going through hell" right now, to quote Ben.  Lauren, who has had the pristine F1 edit or JoJo who has been basically dismissed because of the spoiler.  

sophienette wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:I've been thinking about which F1 would be "going through hell" right now, to quote Ben.  Lauren, who has had the pristine F1 edit or JoJo who has been basically dismissed because of the spoiler.  

Actually I resent that (hope it is ok to  say?). Sleuthers here have kept sleuthing and are still doing it. Post show evidence, editing analysis, etc... point more to Lauren than Jojo, but she has not been "dismissed because of the spoiler". it would be silly considering RS was (most recently) wrong for Kaitlyn's season.

We keep looking for all and any evidence.

sophienette wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:But aren't previews designed to slant things? Like how I thought one of the ily's from Ben during FD previews didn't sound romantic , but in the context of the show , it made more sense. What I'm learning is F1 in previews is mostly hidden. I think Lauren's crying in her PI is in response to Ben telling her on their LCD that he's conflicted . His mind is in thousand places. She's understanding that he could love another ...more. She just doesn't know how things will turn out. Imo

I agree... and how odd we see her cry in the helicopter (or at least looking anguished) but not Jojo?

2observe wrote:

avacaroline wrote:

2observe wrote:No one has addressed why Ben mentions the possiblity of losing his F1 paraphasing) in the Episode 11 Preview of the FRC.  Why did he think he would lose her????  That's the unanswered question, imo.  

My guess is that he had a conversation with Lauren during their LCD and came clean about his journey and his confusion over his feeling for JoJo.  It seems that honesty and communication are a big deal for him. I don't remember where, but CH compared Ben's desire to be open and ", come clean", in some ways to Kaitlyn's....which hinted to me that he made these confessions sometime during filming. I believe that the screencaps of Lauren crying in the latest teaser, is during her ITM after their LCD.  Regardless of how well that conversation went, Ben had to walk away fearful that after Lauren had some time to process everything, she would walk away.

This is all JMO.

The problem I have with this is that in recent interviews, Ben has said that he didn't tell his F1 about his feelings for F2 (paraphasing) until after the FRC.

avacaroline wrote:

2observe wrote:No one has addressed why Ben mentions the possiblity of losing his F1 paraphasing) in the Episode 11 Preview of the FRC. Why did he think he would lose her???? That's the unanswered question, imo.

My guess is that he had a conversation with Lauren during their LCD and came clean about his journey and his confusion over his feeling for JoJo. It seems that honesty and communication are a big deal for him. I don't remember where, but CH compared Ben's desire to be open and ", come clean", in some ways to Kaitlyn's....which hinted to me that he made these confessions sometime during filming. I believe that the screencaps of Lauren crying in the latest teaser, is during her ITM after their LCD. Regardless of how well that conversation went, Ben had to walk away fearful that after Lauren had some time to process everything, she would walk away.

This is all JMO.