The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

GuardianAngel wrote:I think it's Caila. The hair is far to dark and full IMO to be anyone else. Cropped from the s/cap posted upthread, but if someone can kindly post the link to which thread this came from I'd appreciate it. I've scrolled through several pages of No Discussion thread and I don't see it.

page 3, here you go...
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3285p24-the-bachelor-20-ben-higgins-scaps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

^^^usually one magazine gets the inside scoop each year. This year for multiple reasons it appears (IMHO) to be US Weekly.

GuardianAngel wrote:I think it's Caila. The hair is far to dark and full IMO to be anyone else. Cropped from the s/cap posted upthread, but if someone can kindly post the link to which thread this came from I'd appreciate it. I've scrolled through several pages of No Discussion thread and I don't see it.

Here
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3285p24-the-bachelor-20-ben-higgins-scaps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

I did another close up of the cap. I think it's Calia, too.


my sc

My SC doesnt look as pink!



Zoomed:


I think it's Caila, but wouldnt bet too much $ on it

bilolo wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:I think it's Caila. The hair is far to dark and full IMO to be anyone else. Cropped from the s/cap posted upthread, but if someone can kindly post the link to which thread this came from I'd appreciate it. I've scrolled through several pages of No Discussion thread and I don't see it.

snipped..

Here
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3285p24-the-bachelor-20-ben-higgins-scaps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

Thanks. I wanted to see the original s/cap. I cropped another one. I think the dark hair and the style is Caila. JoJo's hair is long straight and split in the middle.



Original s/cap created by Litta

It looks like Caila. She flips her hair over to the side often and that's what it looks like, a brunette with the hair flipped to the side.

GuardianAngel wrote:Didn't sleuthers sleuth out the s/cap of Ben and Lauren to be in the rainforest? Or once the Us weekly came out then sleuthers knew it was the rain forest that s/cap took place by their description?

Yea, we did and don't think we matched it to the rio grande, but to a river right near the resort. The resort had the name of the tours on their webpage.

Added a few things to this list, humor me:  

Lauren F1:
Spoiler
Undeniable attraction & bond
special 1-on-1 time to walk thru Mex City
Photo of thier first interaction at mansion
Ben wowed upon first glance
Blindside references (JoJo, Becca, Ben) 
Family seems happy/excited
Friends of Ben's following her SM
Possible Twitter clues ("fixer upper" references)
Her quieter SM activity, sans promos
Ben's trips to LA
Other contestants commented on thier obvious connection
Not much is said about Lauren in Ben's ITMs (would give too much away?) 
Personal invitation to 1-on-1 in Indiana & in his everyday element 
Caila & JoJo being more guarded, the relationships never catch up
JoJo's busy SM activity (preparing for next step post-Ben?)
*edited* JoJo going through motions to get 'Ette role
Us Weekly story (were they right about Des/Chris or Team Brooks all the way?)
Lauren is emo in ITMs (per edit, usually F1)
TPTB have held back in previews LauBen confessions for later time to get max impact possibly
Season preview: "what we have is real (hugs Caila) and scary (w.fall jump with JoJo) and amazing (kisses Amanda in hot tub) and just (kisses Lauren H.) incredible (kisses Caila FD NP) No Lauren B. in sight
Season preview: no LB profession of feelings or love in person; but one JoJo confession in person

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Foiler/upset:
Spoiler put out quite early in season
LauBen too obvious after 7 epis?
Blinding viewers w/LauBen in edit post-spoiler so other relationships go under the radar? 
Foiler was overturned by SnapchatGate last season, when will another foiler strike?
Slow burn vs. hot flame
The substance of what Ben says about JoJo in the edit
Doubts/fears expressed by both JoJo & Caila in the edit
Curious you tube channel dedicated to Lauren: "xBushnellBachelorettex"
MF's comment about this season being his 2nd fave after Jolly's
"3/4 of a Mesnick" reference
JoJo's less detached SM compared to Lauren (a more positive experience for her?)
Since when has MF given us a straight-up love story with minimal wavering in edit?
"girlfriend" vs "wife" references
Season preview "It's not often in life that you get the opportunity (FD boat embrace w/Caila) to shake things up (LauBen kiss on FD beach) I want to come out of this a better man for my wife" (BenJo fireworks kiss)
Per edit: Will imperfect Ben be ok with Lauren? She admitted she was very picky to Ben. Dad also pointed it out. She seems pretty concerned about how Ben sees her. Why didn't she brush off the Leah stuff? Why wasn't she more confident? Could it be b/c someone called her out on being less than perfect. I see a theme here.
Ben saying mid-way thru he didn't have to question who Lauren was anymore vs. JoJo who he is so comfortable w/ and whom he can be himself with
With so many "blindside" references, is the audience the ones who will be? 

JMHO's

Your list is absolutely awesome imo. What I love is your list for Lauren is getting longer .

Can I say I've been thinking of things regarding Jojo. CH said said Jojo made things easier for Ben and there's something to be said about that. I think in the end, though hurt, she will make that easy for Ben too. Just mo. Sometimes the spark can be strong in the beginning , but as time goes on ,there might be less and less between them that Ben might feel as substance for a real relationship. They might have a lot of passion,  but not enough of what can carry them through after the show. Ben labeled Jojo as passionate to Ellen, Caila as sexy and Lauren as sweet. Her ily to Ben was anything but passionate and we saw the waterfall pics where Ben was turned on. What if the passion was greater than the substance ? Just my musing .

IMO, that JoJo "makes things easier" is exactly what would not make her f1... "easier" implies to me that she doesn't make Ben overly excited.... and the look on his face when with her (just pretty normal) compared with the look in his eyes when he gazes at Lauren says everything I need to know.

ForeverLove wrote:Your list is absolutely awesome imo. What I love is your list for Lauren is getting longer .

Can I say I've been thinking of things regarding Jojo. CH said said Jojo made things easier for Ben and there's something to be said about that. I think in the end, though hurt, she will make that easy for Ben too. Just mo. Sometimes the spark can be strong in the beginning , but as time goes on ,there might be less and less between them that Ben might feel as substance for a real relationship. They might have a lot of passion,  but not enough of what can carry them though after the show. Ben labeled Jojo as passionate to Ellen, Caila as sexy and Lauren as sweet. Her ily to Ben was anything but passionate and we saw the waterfall pics where Ben was turned on. What what if the passion was greater than the substance ? Just my musing .

I tend to think there is substance there. IMO, I think Ben and JoJo have had the most in depth and flowing conversations he's had with any of his F4 women. For him to say things such as, "I'm more comfortable around JoJo than I am with any other woman in my life," "JoJo has loved the qualities of me that are more me than anything else," and "JoJo started out as someone I was very attracted to and it's now turned into a deep relationship." I've come to find at 25 that the best relationships are the ones where you feel completely yourself with that person. While relationships aren't easy and they require work, a lot of things should happen easily in a loving relationship - especially wanting to be there for that person, which CH seemed to reference in the AOL interview in regards to JoJo and Ben.

I think sometimes it's as simple as the lead says though. Ben essentially says in the preview that he loves them both, but he drops the line "I just love somebody.. More." I think it's just really what it came down to for him, whether that person is right for him or not. He chose the girl he felt like he loved more. That's all you can really do in this silly show.