The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

Tiggerlgh wrote:

If true it's more likely Jojo is F2 then....can she fall for Ben and really open up?  I think that is her big obstacle.

I don't know Tiggerlgh..that was the case with Emily and she was F1. Chantal on the other hand was quick to fall in love with Brad. Sorry I'm referencing the old seasons. I haven't watched this show in a while. I keep going back to Jojo's hometown though, doesn't spell F1 to me

Lily wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

If true it's more likely Jojo is F2 then....can she fall for Ben and really open up?  I think that is her big obstacle.

I don't know Tiggerlgh..that was the case with Emily and she was F1. Chantal on the other hand was quick to fall in love with Brad. Sorry I'm referencing the old seasons. I haven't watched this show in a while. I keep going back to Jojo's hometown though, doesn't spell F1 to me

I am not saying Jojo can't be F1 but based on this theory she has the biggest obstacle at this point.

I never buy into the whole 'I have an ex that broke my heart, can I open up again?' crap. In some cases it's legit and there is a real story, but I think more often than not that's an easy fall back for being insecure about your position. Everyone has an ex, and most people at this age have been broken hearted at some point.

Jojo has the HTD drama coming up though - not only ex showing up, but the brothers. That's legit (even if TPTB instigated) obstacle territory for the edit, IMO. Not saying that indicates F1 or F2, but it's there.

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Lily wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

If true it's more likely Jojo is F2 then....can she fall for Ben and really open up?  I think that is her big obstacle.

I don't know Tiggerlgh..that was the case with Emily and she was F1. Chantal on the other hand was quick to fall in love with Brad. Sorry I'm referencing the old seasons. I haven't watched this show in a while. I keep going back to Jojo's hometown though, doesn't spell F1 to me

I am not saying Jojo can't be F1 but based on this theory she has the biggest obstacle at this point.

The question is .. Can they resolve that obstacle by the end

I won't be surprised to see some obstacle come to be on Lauren's HTD that gas to be overcome . Some level of doubt

Jeepers wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Lily wrote:

I don't know Tiggerlgh..that was the case with Emily and she was F1. Chantal on the other hand was quick to fall in love with Brad. Sorry I'm referencing the old seasons. I haven't watched this show in a while. I keep going back to Jojo's hometown though, doesn't spell F1 to me

I am not saying Jojo can't be F1 but based on this theory she has the biggest obstacle at this point.

The question is .. Can they evolve that obstacle by the end

Can they?... Yes. Will they?...TBD

Jeepers wrote:I won't be surprised to see some obstacle come to be on Lauren's HTD that gas to be overcome . Some  level of doubt

Also, she's already mentioned in a promo PI that the uncertainty of not knowing where he is in the other relationships grow stronger and stronger . That's gotta cause stress, and now the producers can really play with your mind because you can't bounce things off the other girls because you're isolated.

Jeepers wrote:I won't be surprised to see some obstacle come to be on Lauren's HTD that gas to be overcome . Some  level of doubt

IMO the HTD could provide two obstacles for Lauren:

1 - Her father brings up the fact that there are 3 other girls. Does that mean he doesn't give his blessing?
2 - Lauren's sister may bring up an objection.

So far though I don't know either will be big. The sister - well Mollie looks almost a star-struck over Ben as Lauren does so I don't think she's going to throw a hard pitch at all. And the "3 other girls" is a recycled obstacle from Sean's season when Catherine's mother didn't give approval - she just said come talk to me when there's no one else. And of course Catherine was F1.

What i found interesting after rewatching the promo:

Lauren: I'm completely IN LOVE with Ben. (VO )
Caila: I know that I'm IN LOVE with you (face to face)
Jojo: You have exceeded all of my expectations and, I do love you.
(More methodical and does not seem as romantic imo. More like just a statement).

Thoughts?

IMO and from others that I've read on here, this season is a mish mash of all seasons.
Can someone put up how Ben describe the final 4 girls to his parents. Maybe it was me but I swore they cut off what he said about Lauren to a degree

Idlemess wrote:IMO and from others that I've read on here, this season is a mish mash of all seasons.
Can someone put up how Ben describe the final 4 girls to his parents. Maybe it was me but I swore they cut off what he said about Lauren to a degree

There's Lauren. There's something about her since the moment I met her that stands out. It'll be interesting how this week goes for us because last week wasn't a great week

ForeverLove wrote:What i found interesting after rewatching the promo:

Lauren: I'm completely IN LOVE with Ben. (VO )
Caila: I know that I'm IN LOVE with you (face to face)
Jojo: You have exceeded all of my expectations and, I do love you.
(More methodical and does not seem as romantic imo. More like just a statement).

Thoughts?

When you type them out like that, they all look a bit canned. 
The way these were said might be more important. What were the facial expressions, eye contact, and body language? In what context was it in? Etc.