The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Social Media - Vids - Media - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4

Hopefully he's honest with Lauren. Andi always made it seem like she told Josh everything, but Josh hinted over the summer on Twitter during Kaitlyn's season that Andi wasn't as honest as she made it seem in regards to Nick.

At least Andi always had the card of "I never told Nick I loved him." Well with Ben, it appears he might have the double whammy - sex and the I love you

JMO

I want to know who his parents liked the most, and how much it influenced his decision. 

It'd be 'a first' if his F1 dumped him at the AFTR.  

limoncello wrote:wow, I can't really believe the "slept with all three girls" part, or rather I really hope it's not true. there goes my over-invested self, to get disappointment in return  

 You are not alone.  Speaking for myself, I always want a love story and a un-messy ending.  Just ain't happening this season.

I don't care how cute Ben and Lauren are together, I still think any woman (or man) deserves better than someone who's willing to sleep with 3 people in 5 days just because they can. Gross.

^ yeah, that's the worst thing. it's like man, you need to sort out your shh. I'm getting a clearer image of why this would be one of Fleiss' favorite seasons if this really is true

I don't wish for Lauren or anybody of those ladies for that matter to be with somebody being capable of that

But didn't they all (most of them) sleep with their F2 and some survived, so what's different this time ?
I hope all is well with Ben and his chosen one.

Ash2214 wrote:Hopefully he's honest with Lauren. Andi always made it seem like she told Josh everything, but Josh hinted over the summer on Twitter during Kaitlyn's season that Andi wasn't as honest as she made it seem in regards to Nick.

At least Andi always had the card of "I never told Nick I loved him." Well with Ben, it appears he might have the double whammy - sex and the I love you

JMO

Yeah Ben really has no defense here if JoJo decides to pull a Nick. I can't really feel sorry for him either if that does happen because he was on the same season as the guy who revealed he had sex with the previous lead. The same season where it was revealed once again he had sex with the lead. Hey if this can be done to a female lead then why not a male lead as well? Especially one who is being touted as the Perfect 10. I knew Ben had nowhere to go but down after that.

bilolo wrote:But didn't they all (most of them) sleep with their F2 and some survived, so what's different this time ?
I hope all is well with Ben and his chosen one.

Very true. Ash supposedly slept with Ben, Trista supposedly slept with Charlie, and Jason slept with Melissa and Jillian. And, Des told Brooks she loved him and Sean told Lindsay he loved her (although in a very different way, IMO). Kaitlyn did both and she and Shawn are still together! So, who knows. I don't think that there's really a formula for what leads to a couple surviving. JMO.

Fingersandtoes wrote:I want to know who his parents liked the most, and how much it influenced his decision. 

It'd be 'a first' if his F1 dumped him at the AFTR.  

I'm purely speculating but I'd guess Lauren. And being he's is super close with his parents, if they told him anything non-neutral, I'd guess a lot.

If Ben did all this then "Sorry Mom" over the I'm not a virgin comment to Kaitlyn....is going to be the biggest gross understatement of Ben's confessional history.

bluwavz wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:Hopefully he's honest with Lauren. Andi always made it seem like she told Josh everything, but Josh hinted over the summer on Twitter during Kaitlyn's season that Andi wasn't as honest as she made it seem in regards to Nick.

At least Andi always had the card of "I never told Nick I loved him." Well with Ben, it appears he might have the double whammy - sex and the I love you

JMO

Yeah Ben really has no defense here if JoJo decides to pull a Nick. I can't really feel sorry for him either if that does happen because he was on the same season as the guy who revealed he had sex with the previous lead. The same season where it was revealed once again he had sex with the lead. Hey if this can be done to a female lead then why not a male lead as well? Especially one who is being touted as the Perfect 10. I knew Ben had nowhere to go but down after that.

I think that Nick was the most overt about it, but other F2/F3s have implied it. I remember when Jesse dumped his F2, she said something along the lines of "the things that you said to me and did with me were completely inappropriate" when she got dumped. I definitely could see Jojo saying something like that when she got dumped. She seems to be over it now, looking at her tweets, and I still think she's getting the 'ette edit (maybe why she was in LA a few weeks) so I'll think she'll (pretend to) be the bigger person at the ATFR.

Well I'm still holding out hope that Shawn dumps Kaitlyn one day.

I know some have slept with two and it worked out, but they should count themselves lucky. Nowadays it doesn't even remain a mystery anymore like it used to. If you do it then you can be pretty sure it'll come out one way or another. I just find it idiotic. You can have plenty of sex after the FRC, so what's with the need to rush into it with several people? Because you want to test drive? Yuck. Free Lauren!