The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Social Media - Vids - Media - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4

I agree albean.

I liked what Nick said on After Buzz.

He said he was told by an ex-producer that more often than not, the producers will get their villain from the FIR recipient or the first 1on1 date recipient.

AllAboutLove wrote:I liked what Nick said on After Buzz.

He said he was told by an ex-producer that more often than not, the producers will get their villain from the FIR recipient or the first 1on1 date recipient.

Yes, I have heard that to be true. It is also true if they think someone will be "willing" they will approach the cast person and float the idea.

^ I can believe it. Especially if the girls already know they are not going to be "the one" and so they will do what they can to get more camera time. JMO

albean99 wrote:I don't know that I buy them approaching Olivia to be a villain. I feel that every season they get more than enough footage to make almost anyone a villain so why pay someone or promise anything when they'll get it for free? I'd have thought that Olivia would have enough confidence to believe she was going to make it far anyway so wouldn't actively take part in that. Of course she gave them the footage they wanted but think she probably thought she was being funny. Where she blew it was rubbing the other girls' noses in it in front of Ben. It's very possible she'd have made the f4 if she'd handled it better.

I definitely don't think it is out of the realm of possibility. A long time ago on the group on the ABC site there was a guy that posted. He said that his name was Jessie and I have forgotten where he said he was from. This was before the season started and before the "cast" had been announced. He said that he had interviewed to be on the Bachelorette and talked a lot about that process. He said he had been offered a spot on the show but had turned it down because he was comfortable with the "role" that they wanted him to play. He also went on to say that it was so boring because you are locked up in hotel room and not allowed to do anything (no TV, no books, etc). He started calling rooms on his floor to see if he could find another guy that was there to interview just to have someone to talk to. He said he had talked to one guy that was going to be on the show also named Jesse and he was from California and seemed like a really nice guy. That was Jillian's season and Jesse Kovacs from California was on the show. I don't know that they promise them anything or pay them but I think they tell them that they will make it worth it for them. Michelle Money comes to mind.

JMO but I don't think Olivia is even remotely interested in Ben. I can't look at them and think they could possibly match for a millisecond. I think it's easy for her to get just about any man's attention and she plays it. She also played on his good nature telling him the first night that she had quit her job to take a chance on him. She could have just looked at this as her opportunity to get to LA and see what she could make happen.

JJ and Lace are at top gulf together via their snapchats. Lol

I don't think Olivia came into this with the expectation she would be the villain nor do I think she was approached into the filming for that role. She is beautiful, well spoken, confident and successful. I think her comments were self-deprecating and those just don't play well on TV when a sound bite is all that is given to her thoughts.

The twins were hanging out with Dan Cox via Emily's snapchat.

Robert is referred to as a creepy womanizer, but Dan Cox seems to pop up when you least expect as well.

^^If Robert is a creepy womanizer, then what does that make his BFF Becca? 

GuardianAngel wrote:Robert is referred to as a creepy womanizer, but Dan Cox seems to pop up when you least expect as well.

I definitely place Dan in the same category as Robert. He just seems like the kind of guy who'll find any excuse to bail, especially if a hotter woman comes along.

FLChica wrote:^^If Robert is a creepy womanizer, then what does that make his BFF Becca? 

I think she's just his "go to" friend from the franchise. With Zack being in what appears to be a serious relationship and Kiptyn taking care of his child, it appears that his options are limited. Given his reputation and from what I've seen on SM, it doesn't seem like he has a ton of friends from the franchise, possibly due to his reputation of constantly sleeping around. Judging by SM, it really doesn't look like he hangs out with anyone from the franchise other than Kiptyn, Zack, and Becca.