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Post by Guest Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:26 pm

allykat wrote:I don't know how I would handle Caila actually interrupting a FSD with another girl. It's not like just showing up at Ben's room, it's showing up at the actual FS he is in with another girl. If that happens I will:

1. Laugh so hard I will choke
2. Laugh some more about Caila actually doing that for TPTB
3. Laugh even harder when it backfires
4. Not be able to watch her season with even an ounce of seriousness


Ok so in short , crazy then. :Nod: Well that's what brainstorming is all about. Praying

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Post by Tiggerlgh Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:28 pm

Litta123 wrote:Assuming these are all actually from the FD episode, Ben's shirt is the best match for both ILYs with Lauren, imo. All observations below are jmo.

Here's the cap with "I've known I've been in love with you for awhile." (more or less, not verbatim)

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From the preview with Lauren - dark gray, un-ironed collar

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With Calia - too crisp a collar, color match too hard due to exposure

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With JoJo - shirt too black

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Also, Lauren and Ben's clothes match here. So Ben did seem to take Lauren outside the following morning.

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My conclusion, both ILYs go to Lauren from what we've been shown. Again, jmo.

Based on the I really think the I have known for a while now that I love you is said to Lauren. I think the other one shown in previews is as well but could be said to someone else later that AM after he left her but before changing. All IMHO.


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Post by bronco18 Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:28 pm

ForeverLove wrote:
bronco18 wrote:IIRC, Lauren's FD was filmed last. So, maybe he told her about telling another girl ILY, and said "I do love you" and maybe followed up with "and thats why I wanted to be honest with you."

Or, if the "I do love you" is not to Lauren, perhaps he could have said "This is really hard for me,  because I do love you" and then breaks up with her.

Just keep talking/posting Bronco's. Your avi is hot!

Haha thanks! He makes me eyedrool :fanningfan


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Post by allykat Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:29 pm

To be clear, it's totally crazy. And absolutely something TPTB would do. This season they aren't even trying to hide their manufactured and scripted drama (see: Jojo HTD), so this could totally happen.

But I will still laugh hysterically if it does.
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:34 pm

allykat wrote:To be clear, it's totally crazy. And absolutely something TPTB would do. This season they aren't even trying to hide their manufactured and scripted drama (see: Jojo HTD), so this could totally happen.

But I will still laugh hysterically if it does.

Might also be a way for Caila to audition . We know what Jojo can do. That would set up both hooks for the next Bette and garner support / votes.

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Post by Jeepers Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:38 pm

Seeing as it is the anniversary year .. Ben the Perfect Bachelor .. The audience is getting a gift .. THE LOVE STORY!! Front a center!!


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Post by mindless Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:05 pm

allykat wrote:I was going to try a screen cap post, but I can't figure out how to host images! If someone pm's me, I'm happy to try. I'm also including links.

Not sure if this is already sluethed, but Ben and Lauren seem to be staying at the Royal Plantation in the Villa Plantana. This seems to match the cap of them in bed the morning after - bed looks to match as well as pictures. http://www.sandals.com/main/plantation/rp-accommodations/

There are also pics of the outside space of the suite (which is really nice!), and there is an area by the pool with flowers that I think matches the "I do love you" flowers.

Anyway, based on him wearing the same shirt and there being an area that could match both the ocean background and the flower background, I think the "I do love you" is to Lauren. No idea about the other ILU yet.

Yes, Ben's definitely in the pool area of Villa Plantana when he says "I do love you". You can even see the brown wooden sofa on the background. The one at the back of this pic. And the pink flowers ofc.

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I said this already in the episode thread earlier, but I'm sure those ILY's are both to Lauren. I think he says ILY to Jojo while they're in the FS and we won't get to see it, like what happened between Kaitlyn and Nick. Or it never even happens and they're just pretending it did, because Jojo is following the script they gave her once she realised Ben was all about Lauren. JMO.
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Post by NCGalBecca Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:18 pm

allykat wrote:To be clear, it's totally crazy. And absolutely something TPTB would do. This season they aren't even trying to hide their manufactured and scripted drama (see: Jojo HTD), so this could totally happen.

But I will still laugh hysterically if it does.

It would kind of be like Trish on Jesse Palmer's season.. when "she" stalked him down and interrupted his date...everything old is new again.


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Post by Guest Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:23 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:
allykat wrote:To be clear, it's totally crazy. And absolutely something TPTB would do. This season they aren't even trying to hide their manufactured and scripted drama (see: Jojo HTD), so this could totally happen.

But I will still laugh hysterically if it does.

It would kind of be like Trish on Jesse Palmer's season.. when "she" stalked him down and interrupted his date...everything old is new again.

Well they did dig up old tricks for Jojo ala Ali and Jake and did a mash. Maybe one for Caila from Jesse's season? Don't know his season but sounds funny.

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Post by allykat Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:26 pm

Going to try this again. I think this is from the "I've been in love with you for a while" (paraphrasing) statement -

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I was looking for anything that might match the background. It looks like there is a large dark wood something, then there is a swatch of green in the top right corner and maybe something of lighter wood too. I looked at picks for Jojo's suite (Romeo Suite at Sandals Ochio) matches her bed and the lamps), but nothing seems green or like anything that could resemble these blurry images. So I looked more at Lauren's suite.

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Can't find anything that jumps out, but there is green throughout the suite (ex: curtains) and there is both dark and light wood throughout the space. Could this be the location of the other ILU?
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:37 pm

i thought it was sleuthed earlier that the scene you pointed out for the ily ws for lauren because in the first promo it was caught with a piece of blond hair in the second pic you posted but in the later promos the blond piece of hair is gone.

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Post by Tiggerlgh Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:42 pm

I think they are both to Lauren based on the clothes he is wearing when we see him say it matches his outfits with her.

I do think he says it to two girls this week we just haven't seen:heard the ILY to yhe other girl,meet. IMHO


OT: when does the full episode description come out?


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