The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Scaps - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Tiggerlgh wrote:I think they are both to Lauren based on the clothes he is wearing when we see him say it matches his outfits with her.

I do think he says it to two girls this week we just haven't seen:heard the ILY to yhe other girl,meet.  IMHO


OT:  when does the full episode description come out?

I am surprised it isn't out, it usually is released on Tuesdays.

nutty1 wrote:

Tiggerlgh wrote:I think they are both to Lauren based on the clothes he is wearing when we see him say it matches his outfits with her.

I do think he says it to two girls this week we just haven't seen:heard the ILY to yhe other girl,meet.  IMHO


OT:  when does the full episode description come out?

I am surprised it isn't out, it usually is released on Tuesdays.

Thanks! Just hoping for any small clues as to what happens.

It's not the full one but this is what TVGuide has as the description.

The Bachelor
7:00 PM on ABC, 2 hr 1 min 2016 TV-14

Ben and the final three bachelorettes arrive in Jamaica for their overnight dates. Ben takes one lady on a romantic river raft ride, helps another rescue baby turtles and explores a waterfall with a third. Later, Ben confesses he loves two women and sends one unlucky lady back home.

http://www.tvguide.com/listings/

So Lauren gets to rescue baby turtles? Lucky! I guess it was Caila on the river raft then.

Tiggerlgh wrote:

Litta123 wrote:Assuming these are all actually from the FD episode, Ben's shirt is the best match for both ILYs with Lauren, imo. All observations below are jmo.

Here's the cap with "I've known I've been in love with you for awhile." (more or less, not verbatim)



From the preview with Lauren - dark gray, un-ironed collar



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Based on the I really think the I have known for a while now that I love you is said to Lauren.  I think the other one shown in previews is as well but could be said to someone else later that AM after he left her but before changing.  All IMHO.

I think that the "I've known I'm in love with you for awhile as well" took place at MTP. MTP was sleuthed to be at "Brown Sugga Villa"


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There is also this room at the MTP location:



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Now in this sc, notice the couch/pillows, which seem to match (as well as Ben's shirt seems to be a match):


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^^^ that is in the finale not next week. I think it happens on the couch in Lauren's fantasy date room

http://cdn.sandals.com/sandals/v11/media/brp/accommodations/large/brp-201.jpg

Tiggerlgh wrote:^^^ that is in the finale not next week.  I think it happens on the couch in Lauren's fantasy date room

http://cdn.sandals.com/sandals/v11/media/brp/accommodations/large/brp-201.jpg

I also think Lauren's ILU happens on the couch in her FS. Here's another image, and you can see the same chord details on the top of the cushion.

Wow great sleuthing everyone.  The thing I find interesting is that its been discussed that the second "I do love you" was pretty unemotional and matter of fact.  If it's Lauren, I wonder the context?

And with how they've built it as a major story point I feel really sure that we'll see Ben say I Love You directly to someone else next week, I presume Jojo.  I think it will be in the moment something he naturally says, JMO.  Or it will be in the FS after he thinks he's not on camera/mike but TPTB will capture it anyway and play it and hold it over his head the next day that they will be putting in the show, so he has to admit it and deal with it.  All JMO.

ETA - just caught up on other threads and see the theory the "I do love you" might be saying goodbye to Cailia.  That makes sense for his tone.  Except I would expect it to create an issue that carries over to the final 2, so not sure what to make of that.

relaxing wrote:Wow great sleuthing everyone.  The thing I find interesting is that its been discussed that the second "I do love you" was pretty unemotional and matter of fact.  If it's Lauren, I wonder the context?

And with how they've built it as a major story point I feel really sure that we'll see Ben say I Love You directly to someone else next week, I presume Jojo.  I think it will be in the moment something he naturally says, JMO.  Or it will be in the FS after he thinks he's not on camera/mike but TPTB will capture it anyway and play it and hold it over his head the next day that they will be putting in the show, so he has to admit it and deal with it.  All JMO.

I did notice that last night, they put a clip of JoJo and Ben in their bathing suits, in the dark, and on the bed while making out. We hadn't gotten that clip before so I'm curious to see if that's when he said he loves her. It looks like it will be a pretty passionate moment, so perhaps that's when it is. We had another clip from a previous preview and their suite has a hot tub or pool, so I'm guessing they went back into the room after that.

umngirl wrote:It's not the full one but this is what TVGuide has as the description.

The Bachelor
7:00 PM on ABC, 2 hr 1 min 2016 TV-14

Ben and the final three bachelorettes arrive in Jamaica for their overnight dates. Ben takes one lady on a romantic river raft ride, helps another rescue baby turtles and explores a waterfall with a third. Later, Ben confesses he loves two women and sends one unlucky lady back home.

http://www.tvguide.com/listings/

So it's Caila on the river raft ride, and the waterfall with Jojo. Are the beach pics Lauren's FD instead of a LCD? Do we have any extra pics with Jojo to put her in the f2?

Possibly, albean. There's an ITM of JoJo in a dress that doesn't match up with her FD dress. Perhaps it's the RC dress. As far as another date altogether, no caps come to mind.

As far as Lauren, this preview showed both her and Ben in different swim suits than the original preview showed. Imo, we have caps of Lauren on her FD and also on her LCD.

Screen caps of Caila....










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