Re: Ben Higgins - SPOILED F1 - FAN Forum - SPOILERS - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

[sosleepy]

I feel like Trista/Ryan, Jason/Molly, Ashley/JP, Sean/Catherine, and Des/Chris may as well throw a little party to welcome these two into  "Bachelor(ette) married club." Done deal.

[Diana]

They look like a actual couple there. I am so looking forward to their emotional first I love you's. He may have told JoJo he loves her but he told Lauren he's IN love with her.

[Diana]

I feel like Trista/Ryan, Jason/Molly, Ashley/JP, Sean/Catherine, and Des/Chris may as well throw a little welcome party for these two to join the "Bachelor(ette) married club." Done deal.

I see them getting married too! I haven't felt so good about couple since Ash's season. I see a lot of JP and Ashley in Ben and Lauren. I certainly hope they get the happy ending and cute baby like they did.

I hope everyone stays around once the show ends airing. We have lots of fun ahead!

[sosleepy]

I did LOVE Emily and Jef. So, that gives me a pause. To me Jem's story looked so promising on screen, and then it just totally and completely fell apart right after. Not to be a downer. But it does make me keep my guard up a bit. I know first hand how fast the cookie can crumble when you ship these couples.

I do have high, high hopes for these two though. They seem so well matched. Much better matched than Jef and Emily in retrospect.

[tennischick80]

I did LOVE Emily and Jef. So, that gives me a pause. To me Jem's story looked so promising on screen, and then it just totally and completely fell apart right after. Not to be a downer. But it does make me keep my guard up a bit. I know first hand how fast the cookie can crumble when you ship these couples.

I do have high, high hopes for these two though. They seem so well matched. Much better matched than Jef and Emily in retrospect.

Agreed. I'm not banking on an actual wedding. I think they have a chance to stay together for a while. Who knows?...they might just be each other's person forever, popping out delicious babies, and building a life in LA, Denver, summer home/winter home. I hope so. They are awesome together from what I see. I see JASH in them, too more than Jem. I loved Jem at the time...so much. I thought Jef was so unique and adorkable even with his hipster jeans- just what Emily needed. I always wonder what happened with them!!?!

[Guest]

I feel like Trista/Ryan, Jason/Molly, Ashley/JP, Sean/Catherine, and Des/Chris may as well throw a little welcome party for these two to join the "Bachelor(ette) married club." Done deal.

I see them getting married too! I haven't felt so good about couple since Ash's season. I see a lot of JP and Ashley in Ben and Lauren. I certainly hope they get the happy ending and cute baby like they did.

I hope everyone stays around once the show ends airing. We have lots of fun ahead!

I can't wait to see them unveil themselves as a real couple with lots of Higgins/Fam pics . I finished my poem for them showing  Ben's pov. If I knew how to make vids, I'd be pumping them out like a donut shop.

[Guest]

You guys didn't get to see was when stopped by the craziest and best donut shop I've ever been to. I had heard Portland was the place for amazing donuts, but theses guys went all out and even made us some giant donuts that represented our dates … a pig, a biplane, all kinds of things.

Love this! Wish we could have seen those and the 'all kinds of things' he didn't mention.

[MVMom39forever]

I did LOVE Emily and Jef. So, that gives me a pause. To me Jem's story looked so promising on screen, and then it just totally and completely fell apart right after. Not to be a downer. But it does make me keep my guard up a bit. I know first hand how fast the cookie can crumble when you ship these couples.

I do have high, high hopes for these two though. They seem so well matched. Much better matched than Jef and Emily in retrospect.

Yes, I was right there with you in my love for Emily and Jef. BUT ... there were so many many gnawing little things that I chose to ignore about Jef, in particular (not to mention the raw chemistry Emily had with Arie!!).

I just don't have any of those same concerns with Lauren and Ben nor do I see any roadblocks in terms of faith or lifestyle choices (i.e. born again virgin). I have no idea how long Lauren and Ben will last but on paper, they match up IMHO really well and you could very, very easily see them being college sweethearts.

[iamreal2u]

You guys didn't get to see was when stopped by the craziest and best donut shop I've ever been to. I had heard Portland was the place for amazing donuts, but theses guys went all out and even made us some giant donuts that represented our dates … a pig, a biplane, all kinds of things.

Love this! Wish we could have seen those and the 'all kinds of things' he didn't mention.

Winnie the pooh and piglet, the pig outfit in bed. This is all coming together nicely.

[Guest]

I loved Ben saying to Lauren's dad,
"At this point with Lauren , it's more Real than I ever thought I could feel."

In one of the finale promos you hear Ben describing his finale choice in that what he has is REAL, etc. All things point to Lauren but Ben has to navigate through two other women. Can we just say game over and head straight to ATFR? It's getting stressful. ,

[Guest]

I loved Ben saying to Lauren's dad,
"At this point with Lauren , it's more Real than I ever thought I could feel."

In one of the finale promos you hear Ben describing his finale choice in that what he has is REAL, etc. All things point to Lauren but Ben has to navigate through two other women. Can we just say game over and head straight to ATFR? It's getting stressful. ,

just posted this on other thread:

When I was watching Lolo's HTD live...(Italic is exactly what we see them say, bold is what I think are key points)

Mollie: Like how do I know you're not saying this to all these other families. Like "Oh I love your daughter and our first date was awesome"

Hinting he just did to her?

Ben: But if I'm on one knee and I'm asking Lauren to marry me at the end, it is because I mean it. And like, I'm committing to that
(the second part of that sentence, if we were to play TPTB and cut it....  :shocked!: )

Ben to Lolo's dad: if i'm down on one knee at the end of this it will be because it's real. And.. at this point with Lauren, it's more real than I ever thought I could ever feel

[tennischick80]

I loved Ben saying to Lauren's dad,
"At this point with Lauren , it's more Real than I ever thought I could feel."

In one of the finale promos you hear Ben describing his finale choice in that what he has is REAL, etc. All things point to Lauren but Ben has to navigate through two other women. Can we just say game over and head straight to ATFR? It's getting stressful. ,

These thoughts are overflowing...streams of consciousness...just when I have their ABC made for TV all envisioned, I remind myself Caila & Jojo are still factors. It's annoying. (Not Jojo and Caila, but the whole process) 3 weeks better not come slowly! If I'm using my barometer for how much I love past couples 1. Trista & Ryan 2. JP & Ash 3. Sean & Catherine 4. Lauren & Ben (but they may just top Trista and Ryan one day)-Trista and Ryan because they were first and set the precedent, making me a believer that real love can be found on TV, JP's cute jealousy (never over the top) and his ITM's, Catherine's giggle, his Southern drawl, her funny notes, and their slow burn, and now Ben and Lauren making me say "awwww" every five seconds while watching them (they give each other butterflies and he is Lauren's person - I thought that was awesome that she said that and then alluded to it on SM). I am hoping that FD's drive home the fact that there really isn't anyone else for him, even though there needs to be for the sake of the show. Usually trips to Hawaii are more than 1 week. If she comes home in time for WTA taping, that might be another sign. I would love it if her family stays in Hawaii while she comes home...but, she's not stupid, that would be an arrow to she as F1.

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