Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by Longhornfan Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:59 am

Kashathediva wrote:I can not fathom having sex with anyone for any reason other than "wanting" to.

Exactly!!! And when it comes to Kaitlyn, then that absolutely seems to be the case. It just appears to me that there is an attempt being made here to cast this whole coupling of K & S into some great love story - by minimizing everything else down into this neat little basket.

The truth is usually very simple. Kaitlyn slept with Nick (once or twice) because she wanted to. Period. And she certainly wasn't thinking of Shawn when it happened.

IMO, if she did do the deed a second time with Nick, then that speaks to HER character. There really isn't ANY (NONE) good excuse for doing that a second time if she was truly falling in love with Shawn. And I don't buy that the devil (tptb) made her do it either. She wants us to think of her as this grown up 30-year-old woman who is in touch with her sexuality and who is in charge of her own life. So, I am not buying it that she was forced by the producers to sleep with Nick again in the FS.

And, I am just waiting for the next big shoe to drop.

by Alanna Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:07 pm

jojo47 wrote:
nutty1 wrote:This may be here somewhere, sorry if it is a duplicate. As I said, I was on vacation. If it is, I will delete this post or the mods could.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bachelorette-sneak-peek-shawn-calls-nick-32211614

So much in this preview felt staged to me, right from Shawn calling the Front Desk for Nick's room #. Not saying the argument between the two of them is fake, but the whole thing felt just off.

Just so dumb, reminds me of when Nick claimed he was Andi's husband in Italy and the front desk was like, oooookay, here you go, you seem legit. Right.

I do laugh out loud

everytime I hear Shawn say Nick's last name in his special Shawn tone. Vile. He's hilarious.

by Ariela Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:18 pm

jojo47 wrote:
nutty1 wrote:This may be here somewhere, sorry if it is a duplicate. As I said, I was on vacation. If it is, I will delete this post or the mods could.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bachelorette-sneak-peek-shawn-calls-nick-32211614

So much in this preview felt staged to me, right from Shawn calling the Front Desk for Nick's room #. Not saying the argument between the two of them is fake, but the whole thing felt just off.

I'm sure ABC is facilitating this talk, as CH always says.

Shawn shouldn't be calling Nick out. Granted, I don't trust Nick's intentions, either, but it was more of Kaitlyn's fault than Nick's. He was just the willing participant. Kaitlyn asked Nick to go back to her place, her room. Any guy would do the same.

Unfortunately, Shawn is frustrated, and taking it out on the wrong person. I see it happen all the time. You don't want to lose the person you love (even though they cheated on you) so you try to scare the willing participant away (Nick).

I have a bad feeling about Shawn and Kaitlyn. They will NOT last after Shawn watches this show, and puts things in perspective after the fact.

by MiaHawk Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:22 pm

by Longhornfan Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:24 pm

MiaHawk wrote:The following comments are purely my own personal feelings:

Sex is more than a handshake. It should mean something (more than I do it because 'it feels good').
Sex is not something than you can 'explain away' due to alcohol. Sex is a choice but so is getting intoxicated.
Sex involves a partner and that partner has feelings (and not just the nerve-ending kind).
Sex is so meaningful that it can evoke emotions in a bystander (someone who did not partake in the sex).

If being a modern 2015 woman means that sex serves no greater purpose than to provide some momentary physical pleasure, then I'm glad to call myself old-fashioned.

Let's be perfectly honest and clear: Nobody NEEDS to have sex. Unless you and your partner are trying to conceive a baby, you do not NEED to have sex. Sex is always something that you choose to do...for reasons. I just think that the modern reasons are, at times, very selfish ones. And that's mind boggling to me, because having sex with somebody is one of the most intimate things you can do with another person, so why choose to be selfish in that moment? Sometimes I think 'modern' is just code word for selfish and self-serving.

As always, these are simply my own personal opinions.

Mia, I share your old-fashioned opinions on sex - as expressed above. But, that is a subject for another place and time. So I will just say that this whole season has been such a disappointment for me. It has provided us with a lust story, but not a love story.....IMO.

by isittrue Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:24 pm

Sometimes, I think some people feel that all seems to be a setup heading towards the fall of Kait. I fear that ATFR won't be about a happy couple but more about Shawn "seeing her true colors" and dumping her ATFR. Or maybe the scandal thing about Shawn is bad and she picks the wrong guy? Can you tell I watch too much soapy tv? Maybe I am reading too much into things and it is more along the lines of what Lucas posted dunno. Hoping for the best but really getting worried with where this is all going. FTR I don't think any of them are bad and hope all are really happy.

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:26 pm

Can Shawn be more entitled??????
He said "but this guy keeps getting in own way", seriously, Shawn? You hate the fact it is Nick, or the fact that you are not the only guy on earth?

And what to blame this time? Alcohol AGAIN?

I really don't know if there ever has such a (spoiled) F1 in B'ette seasons.

by ElonM Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:32 pm

Sober Shawn is on the roll. no no

I mean "this guy keeps getting in my way", is he on this show by himself?

Good for you Kaitlyn, you have a protector.

by BlackHalo Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:38 pm

Ariela wrote:I have a bad feeling about Shawn and Kaitlyn. They will NOT last after Shawn watches this show, and puts things in perspective after the fact.

Bingo!

by isittrue Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:41 pm

peggy0221 wrote:Can Shawn be more entitled??????
He said "but this guy keeps getting in own way", seriously, Shawn? You hate the fact it is Nick, or the fact that you are not the only guy on earth?

And what to blame this time? Alcohol AGAIN?

I really don't know if there ever has such a (spoiled) F1 in B'ette seasons.

K did say it was a show about real people with flaws. So we are seeing every flaw this season

by mysthelma Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:46 pm

Ariela wrote:
jojo47 wrote:
nutty1 wrote:This may be here somewhere, sorry if it is a duplicate. As I said, I was on vacation. If it is, I will delete this post or the mods could.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bachelorette-sneak-peek-shawn-calls-nick-32211614

So much in this preview felt staged to me, right from Shawn calling the Front Desk for Nick's room #. Not saying the argument between the two of them is fake, but the whole thing felt just off.

I'm sure ABC is facilitating this talk, as CH always says.

Shawn shouldn't be calling Nick out. Granted, I don't trust Nick's intentions, either, but it was more of Kaitlyn's fault than Nick's. He was just the willing participant. Kaitlyn asked Nick to go back to her place, her room. Any guy would do the same.

Unfortunately, Shawn is frustrated, and taking it out on the wrong person. I see it happen all the time. You don't want to lose the person you love (even though they cheated on you) so you try to scare the willing participant away (Nick).

I have a bad feeling about Shawn and Kaitlyn. They will NOT last after Shawn watches this show, and puts things in perspective after the fact.

I agree Shawn may have thought during filming Nick manipulated K into having sex, but if he watch their date it was initiated by her right from her telling him she wore that top so Nick can touch her. She wanted to have sex with Nick period, and afterwards describing it as "perfect", something they both "deserved", how she does not regret the act but the timing, I don't think it would be fun for Shawn watching all that play out. I just hope Shawn has his big man pants on and will stick it out with K

by isittrue Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:54 pm

Someone pointed out that they may be giving Shawn the Nick edit from last year being FIR, overconfident and disregarding the other guys. Difference is Shawn wins.

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