The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

emusha wrote:Agreed -- my main point is she'll do what she wants cos she's K. That's what we've seen from her from the onset. therefore there's no reason to believe really that the sex if she had it during FS with Nick was anything other than her own doing...esp in the privacy of a room that's not even being bugged

An article did say that cameras interrupted her FSD so maybe the FSD are bugged too this season. Creepy TPTB!

Oh yea forgot about that! well that actually would likely make her angry rather than make her want to have sex cos the producers want her to anyways... there are many reasons she should not have sex with nick if we're thinking about it in the logic on this page
- cameras and bugs of rooms
- shawn will get angry and leave her
- she already knows about their chemistry so no need to check
etc

emusha wrote:Oh yea forgot about that! well that actually would likely make her angry rather than make her want to have sex cos the producers want her to anyways... there are many reasons she should not have sex with nick if we're thinking about it in the logic on this page
- cameras and bugs of rooms
- shawn will get angry and leave her
- she already knows about their chemistry so no need to check
etc

I agree! Does not make sense to me either!

I can not fathom having sex with anyone for any reason other than "wanting" to. 

We'll see, but just because some insider said it happened doesn't mean it did. Reminds me of Mark Twain's "the report of my death has been greatly exaggerated."

BKay wrote:We'll see, but just because some insider said it happened doesn't mean it did. Reminds me of Mark Twain's "the report of my death has been greatly exaggerated."

But I'm stuck on Nick proposing if it didn't happen? Of course, Kait being so upset about the first time makes me amazed that it would happen so it's a really conflicting. I wonder if we'll find out.

IMO - Kaitlyn does what Kaitlyn wants. She lives in the moment and satiates her own desires. She only deals with the outfall after the fact. In terms of Shawn she seems to have convinced him that the past is the past. I can not believe as he watches these episodes it does not give him pause for thought. I am convinced that "snapchat gate" was Kaitlyn's way of grabbing control of the media and reassuring Shawn that he is "The ONE." You can only blame the TPB for some but not All of the casts choices.

The following comments are purely my own personal feelings:



Sex is more than a handshake. It should mean something (more than I do it because 'it feels good').
Sex is not something than you can 'explain away' due to alcohol. Sex is a choice but so is getting intoxicated.
Sex involves a partner and that partner has feelings (and not just the nerve-ending kind).
Sex is so meaningful that it can evoke emotions in a bystander (someone who did not partake in the sex).

If being a modern 2015 woman means that sex serves no greater purpose than to provide some momentary physical pleasure, then I'm glad to call myself old-fashioned.

Let's be perfectly honest and clear: Nobody NEEDS to have sex. Unless you and your partner are trying to conceive a baby, you do not NEED to have sex. Sex is always something that you choose to do...for reasons. I just think that the modern reasons are, at times, very selfish ones. And that's mind boggling to me, because having sex with somebody is one of the most intimate things you can do with another person, so why choose to be selfish in that moment? Sometimes I think 'modern' is just code word for selfish and self-serving.

As always, these are simply my own personal opinions.

^Thank you, Mia! I share your opinion.

Great post, Mia! I totally agree with you.

I think if Kaitlyn was that horny for Nick, she could've used **edited** Anything to hold her over until the fantasy suite. I think Kaitlyn knows how to separate sex from love and that night with Nick was strictly for pleasure. She did not have to have sex with him that night. There are other alternatives and because of the other things she could have done, it was a dumb decision, IMO. And to even allow the camera's to come into the suite with them when she took him there to have sex? Dumb.

nutty1 wrote:This may be here somewhere, sorry if it is a duplicate. As I said, I was on vacation. If it is, I will delete this post or the mods could.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bachelorette-sneak-peek-shawn-calls-nick-32211614

So much in this preview felt staged to me, right from Shawn calling the Front Desk for Nick's room #. Not saying the argument between the two of them is fake, but the whole thing felt just off.