Re: The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

by emusha Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:05 pm

just watched it -- this guy has issues and they're related to his ego...

I'm gonna call it like I see it...curious to see how things end up post-show but his behavior is just very off putting imho. possessive, jealous, disrespectful and not openminded. indeed all of this is egged on by producers but that only adds naive, not perceptive, lacks empathy for fellow contestants also going through the same thing to the list of attributes that we're seeing from him. producers work with what they got -- shawn's behavior is NOT a fluke, he's not drunk, he's had time to reflect... the consistency of his choices point to the approach he takes. JMHO

I actually am not even seeing the long term potential with K given his possessiveness...shouldn't he be considerate and want her to be happy in spite of what that situation means for him????

by iamreal2u Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:06 pm

nutty1 wrote:This may be here somewhere, sorry if it is a duplicate. As I said, I was on vacation. If it is, I will delete this post or the mods could.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/bachelorette-sneak-peek-shawn-calls-nick-32211614

Not sure if this was discussed before, but which hotel gives out the room number of other guests. This was such a setup...

by Lucas15 Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:11 pm

iamreal2u wrote:Not sure if this was discussed before, but which hotel gives out the room number of other guests. This was such a setup...

The one the guys on The Bachelorette are staying in when the producers tell them to. I can't remember which season it was but there was someone else who got a room number that no hotel would ever give out IRL. Of course it was a producer setup.
JMO

by emusha Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:13 pm

Lucas15 wrote:
iamreal2u wrote:Not sure if this was discussed before, but which hotel gives out the room number of other guests. This was such a setup...

The one the guys on The Bachelorette are staying in when the producers tell them to. I can't remember which season it was but there was someone else who got a room number that no hotel would ever give out IRL. Of course it was a producer setup.
JMO

that was cracking me up NICK last season went to the front desk told the lady he was andi's husband to get him to tell him the room number -- that was OBVIOUSLY also a setup

by julychild Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:26 pm

The producers encourage and egg them on. The whole calling to ask for a room number was all production sanctioned. The thing is, like Sean and some others have said, they can't make you do what you wouldn't do normally. The producers simply create the enabling conditions, the behavior or reaction is all on the cast.

by gurlbrit Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:29 pm

Lucas15 wrote:
nutty1 wrote:do we know for sure she had sex with Nick again in the fantasy suite?

mysthelma wrote:Well based on the us weekly article she did have sex again with nick in the FS according to an insider, which I don't get as well. And who is this insider? A producer?

I agree that this is a perplexing question and one that doesn't make sense if we look at it through the eyes of Kaitlyn - why in the world would she make the same "mistake" twice? The only way that makes sense is if you look at it through the eyes of the producers. IMO had Kaitlyn had sex with Nick in Dublin and not in the FS Nick would have known immediately that he was not her pick and wouldn't have proposed - he would have a very good reason to expect a rejection. I believe the producers wanted a proposal from Nick and knew it was going to be a rejection and they wanted that on film. It's not a good position to put Nick in but IMO they couldn't care less about that.

Exactly how they got Kaitlyn to have sex with Nick in the FS is something we'll probably never know. I suspect the timing of things played a role - it seems likely that she had the date with Nick before she told Shawn about the Dublin sex and not knowing what Shawn would do could have been used to get her to keep Nick "motivated" so she wouldn't end up with no one. But one thing that I do believe is that the producers are very very good at what they do which is to manipulate people into doing things on the show that they probably would not do in real life; IMO if we can figure out what it is they want - that's probably what we're going to see.

Do we have any evidence that Shawn doesn't walk when she tells him that he has had pre-FS sex? If not, then maybe, just maybe Shawn decided to leave and then maybe returned. After all, others have left and come back (Ed comes to mind), so why not Shawn.

by asim Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:34 pm

Do we have any evidence that Shawn doesn't walk when she tells him that he has had pre-FS sex? If not, then maybe, just maybe Shawn decided to leave and then maybe returned. After all, others have left and come back (Ed comes to mind), so why not Shawn. [/quote]

I've thought this too, but if Kaitlyn tells Shawn before the RC as indicated in the previews and Shawn goes to Nicks room the next morning, then he is staying and didn't leave at the Rc. Am I seeing this correctly?

by gurlbrit Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:40 pm

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Thanks for your thoughts, I'm trying to come up with a reason why Kaitlyn would have "sex" with Nick again. The thought I have is that Shawn leaves after arguing with Nick. Can you remember as a child threatening your parents that you were going to run away? Well, perhaps something like this happened. Shawn confronts Nick, has a big argument with him and decided to hoof it. Realizes his mistake, and/or calms down, and comes back a day or so later, after K has had her FS with Nick.

SMH at all the antics this season.

by asim Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:49 pm

gurlbrit IMO, I think that the scandalizing info Nick has on Shawn is that he came to his room and confronted him. Then the Press Release says that the next day Kaitlyn confronts Shawn about it. So I don't think Shawn runs away, again producer driven cause once Kaitlyn and Shawn have their FS night and they can talk without camera and producers, it will be a different story. Again IMO.

by Lucas15 Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:51 pm

emusha wrote: that was cracking me up NICK last season went to the front desk told the lady he was andi's husband to get him to tell him the room number -- that was OBVIOUSLY also a setup

Best laugh I've had all day! I KNEW I had seen this before but how ironic that it was Shawn pulling the same gimmick on Nick that Nick pulled on Andi. Too funny!

by mindless Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:01 pm

asim wrote:gurlbrit IMO, I think that the scandalizing info Nick has on Shawn is that he came to his room and confronted him. Then the Press Release says that the next day Kaitlyn confronts Shawn about it. So I don't think Shawn runs away, again producer driven cause once Kaitlyn and Shawn have their FS night and they can talk without camera and producers, it will be a different story. Again IMO.

Good thinking! Yeah, I think that's the timeline. Kaitlyn tells Shawn about Nick sex before the RC, then he goes to confront Nick on the morning of Nick's FD and Nick tells Kaitlyn about it and they proceed to have sex again. Oh the romance!

by Guest Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:44 pm

How do we know that N&K were intimate again? Sorry, if the proof have been posted earlier but I must have missed it , so, is there any concrete evidence of this?

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