The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

LenaActually wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:
so in the first hour, we have Jared date, Joe drama, K telling S drama and rc? Cause we still have N overnight date, S and N drama...keeping in mind S drama at RC.

Jared already had his date ( the road trip) but no rose was given. I think we have Ben H.'s date, the RS, then the 3-on-1 (with Joe's drama), then Nick's overnight. I believe? Don't know when Kaitlyn's discussion with Shawn about Nick happens but I'm pretty sure she tells him this episode.

LenaActually wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:
so in the first hour, we have Jared date, Joe drama, K telling S drama and rc? Cause we still have N overnight date, S and N drama...keeping in mind S drama at RC.

Jared already had his date ( the road trip) but no rose was given. I think we have Ben H.'s date, the RS, then the 3-on-1 (with Joe's drama), then Nick's overnight. I believe? Don't know when Kaitlyn's discussion with Shawn about Nick happens but I'm pretty sure she tells him this episode.

AllAboutLove wrote:

Ariela wrote:Can you give me an example of when Shawn is manipulative, or arrogant?

Examples IMO:

Shawn = arrogant = Going off to the producer about "Jared" getting a rose: "You're telling me she would rather have Jared than me?!" "That's BS, Absolutely BS".  So Shawn expected that validation of getting GDR and he thinks he is up here and Jared is down there. Arrogant, imo. Especially considering what this show is and I am not falling for the "I have no idea what this show is about in 2015" or the bubble or the "you're the one" excuse. He is choosing what to say and that was his words when he didn't realize he was being filmed. A smart person will do some research before choosing to go on show and sign a contract.

Shawn = manipulative = continually putting Kaitlyn on the spot on camera "Are you in love with me? Yes or no?". And referencing that Kaitlyn told him he is the "one". Imo, and not looking at the end but the journey... what Kaitlyn meant and how Shawn took it were two different things because if Shawn was "the one" why sleep with Nick days after saying this if it is totally "the one" like no doubts whatsoever? Again, he is using Kaitlyn's words against her to make her feel guilt. She was crying the first time he said that "her words and actions don't match" and then crying again about Shawn confronting her and asking about Nick and her being scared... so continually crying and she made a mistake telling him he is the one and giving him that much reassurance. Some call it needy, some call it the bubble, some call it whatever, but considering Kaitlyn is lead, Shawn, imo, is manipulative by repeatedly going to Kaitlyn for his own validation... Why not sit back and see how Kaitlyn is rather than seeking validation time and time again?

Again, jmo and not expecting fans of Shawn to see either of these as examples. It is what it is.

mprssdbyu wrote:

LenaActually wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:
so in the first hour, we have Jared date, Joe drama, K telling S drama and rc? Cause we still have N overnight date, S and N drama...keeping in mind S drama at RC.

Jared already had his date ( the road trip) but no rose was given. I think we have Ben H.'s date, the RS, then the 3-on-1 (with Joe's drama), then Nick's overnight. I believe? Don't know when Kaitlyn's discussion with Shawn about Nick happens but I'm pretty sure she tells him this episode.

I didn't count the road trip as his date ...my bad.

Longhornfan wrote:

Ariela wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
IA. If it wasn't for the spoiler I would think that Kaitlyn never chose Shawn because the guy always is needing to confront and talk. ALL the time. I am exhausted just watching him continually do this and now again when he gets a rose? Talk about wearing a person down! I think he would have worn Kaitlyn down into a corner no matter what. Manipulative on an epic scale, imo... the whole "but you told me I am the one... the one... the one".

Get over it. So annoying, imo.

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I am very suspicious of Nick's motives. I've seen a video where he states that he wants to be the Bach; it would be an honor....Like I said before, I guess I have seen too much media on Nick.

Ariela, where did you see that video of Nick saying that he wants to be the Bachelor (would be honored)?

Can you provide a link here so that I can see it?  Or else tell me where I can go to find this video?

eirekay wrote:From the ABC Episode Description:

ABC wrote:Kaitlyn’s first overnight date with one of the smitten bachelors takes them to the charming town of Cork, Ireland. One of the locals shares that the secret to a long marriage is “trust,” which resonates with the couple. But the drama of this season continues to mount as this man reveals something scandalous about one of the other bachelors. How will Kaitlyn react?

But this bachelor’s bliss is cut short. The next day, he is caught in a huge feud with one of the other men and there is no way of telling how these hostilities will be resolved or how they will affect Kaitlyn.

I thought the F3 are segregated once the FS dates start?  Don't they even stay at different hotels to keep them apart? TPTB must really want to light the fuse that blows this up!

OnePromise wrote:

MiaHawk wrote:What embarrassing question do you think K asks Ben? This will be the producer driven audition segment for him.

Could Ben be a virgin?  He seems to be a conservative Christian.  

Ladybug82 wrote:^^ the way TPTB are continuing each epi, it'll probably show Nick and Shawn coming into the room and sitting down and then we'll get the coming up next on the bachelor preview and we won't get to hear enough to even know what it's about.    

I don't like the cliffhanging continuation crap.  An episode should start following the last RC and end with an RC!  

Alanna wrote:I'm sure tptb sent in Nick to interrupt and he didn't just think of it on his own at the perfect moment.

That poor thing is SO stressed Shawn will leave her when she tells him. I feel her anxiety through the screen. I can't wait for her to already get it over with myself!

Di_ATL wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:Actually, they started retreads before Jason: Trista, Meredith, Jen S., Blob, Brad, Deanna. 
Trista was on DWTS and so was Melissa, even though she was not an 'Ette. I don't watch this show, so who they choose is not relevant to me.

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I know all these ettes have been retreads, i was thinking with the guys it started with Jason, i stand correct as i had forgotten about Bob. Blob

remockered wrote:I wish Nick would have spilled the beans.  Instead we get three episodes of Kaitlyn anticipating Shawn finding out, when he was only there to whine about the show's formatting ( Kait unable to give him a group rose or 1-1 everytime).  It is mindnumbing.  Please Nick, tell, so it stops!

GuardianAngel wrote:IA itstrue. Why can't they take note of Bach NZ. That was refreshing. No crazy contestants, and the happy couple, who had more than 10 minutes of air time.

This whole season is full of drama, this season in particular is very tiresome. Can't they at least have a happy ATFR? The F2 is over it at this point. No need to stir it all up again. Viewers IMO want to see the happy couple post show not more scripted oscar performing for the next lead during the ATFR.