The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

happygolucky wrote:

Ariela wrote:2.Bolded: I disagree. I watched it recorded, and Nick waited for Shawn to sit on the couch and then proceeded to with INTIMATE.
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If you have the episode recorded, then I suggest to watch it again and then please tell me, when do you ever see Shawn and Nick in the same shot where Nick would be telling those words ... because I remember there isn't 1 wide/long shot of all the guys together... that scene is spliced and put together by many close-ups of the guys singularly "listening" ... each shot of each guy could be shot anytime of the day and put together, while the sound - Nick's voice - runs over their shot ... it's called editing. And I'm not even discussing what words he said, the point is, he didn't tell them about sex, so the guys still don't know and it didn't come from his mouth ... so that story is yet to be seen.

And sorry, considering that I do pay attention to what Nick does and says, not only on this show but in his personal/professional life too, because he is all I care about from this freaking show, that I follow his steps, read about his life ... you can call me a fool for wasting my time or obsessive for a guy I've never met personally, but I don't think you can say I'm in denial. Until proven otherwise, nobody knows the whole truth.

I usually don't write much about Shawn, because I don't pay attention to what he does, I don't follow him and so far I don't know much about him ... all I know is who Kaitlyn is, since last season and continuing ... and I believe she is better suited with Shawn than Nick.

happygolucky wrote:

isittrue wrote:Oh, I agree Nick has a very dry sense of humor too.  I get Nick too (or at least I believe I do).  I really think those who do not get Shawn's sense of humor just don't like him and vice/versa.  When you really don't care for a person, then nothing they do is going to be likeable.  

ITA. Personally I have nothing against Shawn. If I take into the account all the editing and the manipulation that TPTB deals with, I could not say to know what he would be like in the relationship outside of this "confinement". I'm just not interested in his and Kaitlyn's story, but wish them all the luck and from that little information that I do have, I actually believe they have better chances than the couple from the previous season.

That said, I would politely ask those who are not fans of Nick, not to be condescending of those of us who are - fans, who believe to know Nick, with all his flaws and faults.I don't believe I need an eye-opener.

But I do sincerely hope that Nick is "acting" a bit this season, I honestly hope he is putting a mask on and pretending, I truly wish for him to "play the part" ... because I would much rather see him "exiting this game with a grin" ... than leaving heartbroken (even for a week).
So I wish he would manipulate every scene from now on, I would stand behind him proudly.

isittrue wrote:

happygolucky wrote:

isittrue wrote:Oh, I agree Nick has a very dry sense of humor too.  I get Nick too (or at least I believe I do).  I really think those who do not get Shawn's sense of humor just don't like him and vice/versa.  When you really don't care for a person, then nothing they do is going to be likeable.  

ITA. Personally I have nothing against Shawn. If I take into the account all the editing and the manipulation that TPTB deals with, I could not say to know what he would be like in the relationship outside of this "confinement". I'm just not interested in his and Kaitlyn's story, but wish them all the luck and from that little information that I do have, I actually believe they have better chances than the couple from the previous season.

That said, I would politely ask those who are not fans of Nick, not to be condescending of those of us who are - fans, who believe to know Nick, with all his flaws and faults.I don't believe I need an eye-opener.

But I do sincerely hope that Nick is "acting" a bit this season, I honestly hope he is putting a mask on and pretending, I truly wish for him to "play the part" ... because I would much rather see him "exiting this game with a grin" ... than leaving heartbroken (even for a week).
So I wish he would manipulate every scene from now on, I would stand behind him proudly.

I hope this is not directed towards me - as I really was not trying to be condescending at all and I do still like Nick.  

Ladybug82 wrote:^^ the way TPTB are continuing each epi, it'll probably show Nick and Shawn coming into the room and sitting down and then we'll get the coming up next on the bachelor preview and we won't get to hear enough to even know what it's about.    

I don't like the cliffhanging continuation crap.  An episode should start following the last RC and end with an RC!  

sdmom wrote:

Ariela wrote:

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1. WHY would anyone hate Nick? I'm not dating him....not that I would. BTW- Shawn isn't my type, either.
2.Bolded: I disagree. I watched it recorded, and Nick waited for Shawn to sit on the couch and then proceeded to with INTIMATE.
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Nick can drop tears-it's called good acting. His actions and words do not match, just like Kaitlyn's. That is why I believe he's a better match for K.

I rewatched that scene again. He said "it was (then pause) intimate". I am not arguing if it's dubbed in or not, because I think we all have our mind set up on this topic, no one can change others' opinion. Also, Nick denied he kissed and told on his tweeter. If he was lying, I would think other contestants would refute him. but so far, no one did.

HOWEVER, I have to disagree with the bolded part. I am one of Nick's biggest fans, I have different opinions of him than non fans, but I don't think I live in denial. I don't think I, or any other fans, ever said  he was dubbed with Andi when he asked that explosive question at ATFR.

bilolo wrote:The last episode will be a cliffhanger too imo.