The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

ElonM wrote:

Ariela wrote:It's interesting how we see things being played out in this drama.
Whether you all see things spliced, diced, or whatever, the following is happening:

1. Nick IS MANIPULATIVE and cannot be trusted....Andi's season he purposely waited for the right moment to slip in that they had sex. This time he waited for Shawn to come into the room and that is when he said that Kaitlyn and he were intimate.

Nick LIED when he told Kailtyn that he NEVER told the guys that they were intimate. He made a HUGE point of saying it in front of Shawn just to rattle him. Prior to Shawn coming into the room he wanted the other guys to like him and he kept his conversation very non-threatening. To me, that is a master manipulator. Kaitlyn can feel that. Deep down she does NOT trust Nick. Shawn sees it very clear, but he's powerless, and frustrated....

2.Kaitlyn is impulsive, loosey goosey, and not very bright. She's having these conversations with Shawn on one level (that she told him he's the one too soon) when in reality she's afraid of  NICK exposing their sexcapade (because she deep down doesn't trust Nick).

3. Shawn has TRUST issues, rightfully so, but he's being led into a different direction by Kaitlyn. He's confused and frustrated. He's being played for a fool. Kaitlyn at the moment EXPECTS Shawn to "take it", because that is what her journey is about...IN previous conversations Shawn says that his parents split up and TRUST is pivotal in his relationship. It's as though Shawn has PTSD from his parents divorce, which leads me to believe that one of his parents was cheated on.... so now he's thrown into an emotional hell with a girl who is NOT worth it, but he thinks she is.

What a mess. I don't really care who she's with, but I think that she deserves to be with Nick. Shawn seems to be a stand up, confused guy. He ALWAYS looks her right into her eyes, unlike Nick who has shifty eyes....that is my observation, so far.

I understand the hatred for Nick, but by now I think most of the regular viewers on this board are aware of the editing of this franchise.
Nick didn't tell the guys he was intimate with Kaitlyn. That word was edited in.

Also, if he had done that and Shawn was present do you think he would have stayed quiet. No, he would have run home.

emusha wrote:Really Alanna? Wow that's quite interesting cos to me that statement sounds bland, heavy and serious  -- I can't even imagine cracking a smirk from that
IMHO K didn't pick the guy with the sense of humor -- she picked the guy she had intense passion with with zero consideration for anything else  jmho
I can't even think of how these two work together to make eachother better -- even simply how they'd go out of their way to support each other ...rather than focusing on individual needs

Ariela wrote:2.Bolded: I disagree. I watched it recorded, and Nick waited for Shawn to sit on the couch and then proceeded to with INTIMATE.
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Alanna wrote:

emusha wrote:Really Alanna? Wow that's quite interesting cos to me that statement sounds bland, heavy and serious  -- I can't even imagine cracking a smirk from that
IMHO K didn't pick the guy with the sense of humor -- she picked the guy she had intense passion with with zero consideration for anything else  jmho
I can't even think of how these two work together to make eachother better -- even simply how they'd go out of their way to support each other ...rather than focusing on individual needs

Yes he's totally joking imo. This reminds me of how he posted before snapchat that he was mad to be sitting by Kait because he wanted to be by Ben and it was speculated he was calling Kait a ho (bros before hos). Not so much

happygolucky wrote:The funny fact, Nick has a dry humor too ... and last year when he was joking online and everyone was making a big deal out of his words, criticizing him for being disrespectful/insensitive, I totally understood his jokes ... or so I believe.

This year some find a "problem" in Shawn's words ... I don't care about him, so I don't see it a problem ... but still there are those who GET Shawn's humor ... or so they believe.

isittrue wrote:Oh, I agree Nick has a very dry sense of humor too.  I get Nick too (or at least I believe I do).  I really think those who do not get Shawn's sense of humor just don't like him and vice/versa.  When you really don't care for a person, then nothing they do is going to be likeable.  

peggy0221 wrote:Ariela, just one thing I would love to hear your view...
If Nick did tell, why would Shawn and even other guys, were still there?
Why would Tanner be friend with him and strolled with him? Dont forget Tanner used to be the biggest Nick h*ter in the house.
And why would Shawn be devastated after kait came clean, if Nick already told the guys?

Everything didn't add up at all.

Ariela wrote:

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1. WHY would anyone hate Nick? I'm not dating him....not that I would. BTW- Shawn isn't my type, either.
2.Bolded: I disagree. I watched it recorded, and Nick waited for Shawn to sit on the couch and then proceeded to with INTIMATE.
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Nick can drop tears-it's called good acting. His actions and words do not match, just like Kaitlyn's. That is why I believe he's a better match for K.

That said, I would politely ask those who are not fans of Nick, not to be condescending of those of us who are - fans, who believe to know Nick, with all his flaws and faults.I don't believe I need an eye-opener.