The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

I don't like being lied to. I understand editing to tease us, or splicing things together that don't matter in the end, but maligning someone's character by making it look like they said something hurtful when they didn't, really is not acceptable. (pouty face on right now!)

happydays wrote:Wow I really don't know what to believe with this show anymore. It is chopped and cut up all over the place!

On their twitter page, they actually tweeted about a fault developing in Nick's memory about stating they were 'intimate'. I went back to watch that scene and it does indeed look like it was dubbed/from a different context. It's crazy how they are calling him out on a lie they made up...

They used the "intimate" from his convo last epi with Kait, where he said he never told anyone they were "intimate". Inflection is exactly the same.

remockered wrote:

happydays wrote:Wow I really don't know what to believe with this show anymore. It is chopped and cut up all over the place!

On their twitter page, they actually tweeted about a fault developing in Nick's memory about stating they were 'intimate'. I went back to watch that scene and it does indeed look like it was dubbed/from a different context. It's crazy how they are calling him out on a lie they made up...

They used the "intimate" from his convo last epi with Kait, where he said he never told anyone they were "intimate".  Inflection is exactly the same.  

^^ That's what I thought when I saw the last episode and then watched back Nick's scene with the guys

Not sure if this has been posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiYMQAIxO8Y

LenaActually wrote:That clip is pretty funny. All of them seriously pondering the meaning of "a-muck".  

Nick: "I don't know anything from an Irish standpoint...?"
Jared: "Run a-muck...Doesn't that mean, like, chaos?"
Shawn: "Well, we already got that goin'"

LOL me thinks Jared got it right. Run Amuck is chaos at least in my part of the world which is the UK!

Shawn's sense of dry humor just cracks me up so much. His delivery is always on point, it's kind of amazing, considering how actually stressed out he is during this time.

Really Alanna? Wow that's quite interesting cos to me that statement sounds bland, heavy and serious -- I can't even imagine cracking a smirk from that
IMHO K didn't pick the guy with the sense of humor -- she picked the guy she had intense passion with with zero consideration for anything else jmho
I can't even think of how these two work together to make eachother better -- even simply how they'd go out of their way to support each other ...rather than focusing on individual needs

^^^^I agree with Alanna and think Shawn has a great sense of humor. Different strokes I guess. Shawn seems very considerate and concerned for others too. I remember when he told her he felt bad for Joshua. (Maybe it was another guy/name)

Anyways that is what makes this board so great.

It's interesting how we see things being played out in this drama.
Whether you all see things spliced, diced, or whatever, the following is happening:

1. Nick IS MANIPULATIVE and cannot be trusted....Andi's season he purposely waited for the right moment to slip in that they had sex. This time he waited for Shawn to come into the room and that is when he said that Kaitlyn and he were intimate.

Nick LIED when he told Kailtyn that he NEVER told the guys that they were intimate. He made a HUGE point of saying it in front of Shawn just to rattle him. Prior to Shawn coming into the room he wanted the other guys to like him and he kept his conversation very non-threatening. To me, that is a master manipulator. Kaitlyn can feel that. Deep down she does NOT trust Nick. Shawn sees it very clear, but he's powerless, and frustrated....

2.Kaitlyn is impulsive, loosey goosey, and not very bright. She's having these conversations with Shawn on one level (that she told him he's the one too soon) when in reality she's afraid of  NICK exposing their sexcapade (because she deep down doesn't trust Nick).

3. Shawn has TRUST issues, rightfully so, but he's being led into a different direction by Kaitlyn. He's confused and frustrated. He's being played for a fool. Kaitlyn at the moment EXPECTS Shawn to "take it", because that is what her journey is about...IN previous conversations Shawn says that his parents split up and TRUST is pivotal in his relationship. It's as though Shawn has PTSD from his parents divorce, which leads me to believe that one of his parents was cheated on.... so now he's thrown into an emotional hell with a girl who is NOT worth it, but he thinks she is.

What a mess. I don't really care who she's with, but I think that she deserves to be with Nick. Shawn seems to be a stand up, confused guy. He ALWAYS looks her right into her eyes, unlike Nick who has shifty eyes....that is my observation, so far.

I have a problem staring into people's eyes when I talk to them. I know most people have been taught to take this as a sign of dishonesty, but I know that I am not dishonest. It's a factor of how I was raised and my personality.

Ariela wrote:It's interesting how we see things being played out in this drama.
Whether you all see things spliced, diced, or whatever, the following is happening:

1. Nick IS MANIPULATIVE and cannot be trusted....Andi's season he purposely waited for the right moment to slip in that they had sex. This time he waited for Shawn to come into the room and that is when he said that Kaitlyn and he were intimate.

Nick LIED when he told Kailtyn that he NEVER told the guys that they were intimate. He made a HUGE point of saying it in front of Shawn just to rattle him. Prior to Shawn coming into the room he wanted the other guys to like him and he kept his conversation very non-threatening. To me, that is a master manipulator. Kaitlyn can feel that. Deep down she does NOT trust Nick. Shawn sees it very clear, but he's powerless, and frustrated....

2.Kaitlyn is impulsive, loosey goosey, and not very bright. She's having these conversations with Shawn on one level (that she told him he's the one too soon) when in reality she's afraid of  NICK exposing their sexcapade (because she deep down doesn't trust Nick).

3. Shawn has TRUST issues, rightfully so, but he's being led into a different direction by Kaitlyn. He's confused and frustrated. He's being played for a fool. Kaitlyn at the moment EXPECTS Shawn to "take it", because that is what her journey is about...IN previous conversations Shawn says that his parents split up and TRUST is pivotal in his relationship. It's as though Shawn has PTSD from his parents divorce, which leads me to believe that one of his parents was cheated on.... so now he's thrown into an emotional hell with a girl who is NOT worth it, but he thinks she is.

What a mess. I don't really care who she's with, but I think that she deserves to be with Nick. Shawn seems to be a stand up, confused guy. He ALWAYS looks her right into her eyes, unlike Nick who has shifty eyes....that is my observation, so far.

I understand the hatred for Nick, but by now I think most of the regular viewers on this board are aware of the editing of this franchise.
Nick didn't tell the guys he was intimate with Kaitlyn. That word was edited in.

Also, if he had done that and Shawn was present do you think he would have stayed quiet. No!. Given his behavior on the show which some have excused as being in love, he would have confronted Kaitlyn.

However, Kaitlyn is the one that will inform the guys she was intimate with Nick next week.

Ariela, just one thing I would love to hear your view...
If Nick did tell, why would Shawn and even other guys, were still there?
Why would Tanner be friend with him and strolled with him? Dont forget Tanner used to be the biggest Nick h*ter in the house.
And why would Shawn be devastated after kait came clean, if Nick already told the guys?

Everything didn't add up at all.