The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Thanks happy-go-lucky. Anyway I am still wondering what this something scandalous is about I assume Shawn. I am hoping it is not that bad personally since apparently she accepts his proposal at the end but one never knows how TPTB will manipulate things.

To specify the Nick's recounting:
he is sitting straight when he talks to Joe and JJ
when the other guys arrive - Jarred sits next to Nick
Nick recounts the date for the 2nd time, this time facing Jared and Shawn on his left ... sitting with his left leg crossed ...
when he talks about "intimate" ... he is sitting straight again ...
while the whole "scene" about guys "listening" is portrayed like everyone was facing Nick, sitting alone on the couch...
when the camera pans to Shawn quickly after the "intimate" word ... Jarred is sitting next to Nick again.

So basically, when he said "intimate" ... Jarred wasn't in the room .. neither was Shawn. - IMO

Eta: Ariela - thanks for taking your time to analyze and all good.

The producers are really good at making us see what they want us to see. IMO it's best to give the contestants the benefit of the doubt. OT Will there be a LCD or did they cut that out too?

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Thanks all.

happygolucky wrote:To specify the Nick's recounting:
he is sitting straight when he talks to Joe and JJ
when the other guys arrive - Jarred sits next to Nick
Nick recounts the date for the 2nd time, this time facing Jared and Shawn on his left ... sitting with his left leg crossed ...
when he talks about "intimate" ... he is sitting straight again ...
while the whole "scene" about guys "listening" is portrayed like everyone was facing Nick, sitting alone on the couch...
when the camera pans to Shawn quickly after the "intimate" word ... Jarred is sitting next to Nick again.

So basically, when he said "intimate" ... Jarred wasn't in the room .. neither was Shawn. - IMO

Eta: Ariela - thanks for taking your time to analyze and all good.

happygolucky, do you know how many of the guys were in the room? I'm curious if Ben H. was there?

IMO, regardless of what specific words were said, I don't think that any of the men interpreted Nick as saying he had sex with Kaitlyn. If they had, I believe they would have clarified with Nick by specifically asking him "Did you have sex with Kaitlyn?" or something of that sort. I also think that Shawn would have confronted Kaitlyn about it, if he had any inkling of what happened. IMO, Ben H. would have asked as well. In truth, I think all of the men would have questioned Kaitlyn's intentions at that point

eirekay wrote:

happygolucky wrote:To specify the Nick's recounting:
he is sitting straight when he talks to Joe and JJ
when the other guys arrive - Jarred sits next to Nick
Nick recounts the date for the 2nd time, this time facing Jared and Shawn on his left ... sitting with his left leg crossed ...
when he talks about "intimate" ... he is sitting straight again ...
while the whole "scene" about guys "listening" is portrayed like everyone was facing Nick, sitting alone on the couch...
when the camera pans to Shawn quickly after the "intimate" word ... Jarred is sitting next to Nick again.

So basically, when he said "intimate" ... Jarred wasn't in the room .. neither was Shawn. - IMO

Eta: Ariela - thanks for taking your time to analyze and all good.

happygolucky, do you know how many of the guys were in the room?  I'm curious if Ben H. was there?

IMO, regardless of what specific words were said, I don't think that any of the men interpreted Nick as saying he had sex with Kaitlyn.  If they had, I believe they would have clarified with Nick by specifically asking him "Did you have sex with Kaitlyn?" or something of that sort.  I also think that Shawn would have confronted Kaitlyn about it, if he had any inkling of what happened.  IMO, Ben H. would have asked as well.  In truth, I think all of the men would have questioned Kaitlyn's intentions at that point

Eirekay, I agree with your take on things. *Whatever* Nick said seemed to pass muster with the guys because IMO no one appeared to implode after his account.

I posted in epi. 6 thread how the cuts were done of that scene ... it appears to me, that most of the conversation didn't take place when Shawn, Jared, Dr. Chris or Ben were present. I can only assume he was recounting to JJ and Joe, but even that is a speculation.

Well folks, I'll be going off tomorrow to assimilate back into society and go camping for a week! Going to definitely miss the entertainment that is the live commentary of this thread**edited**
Enjoy!

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Wow, is this for real?! Are we victims of clever editing again or does Nick actually interrupt?

I'm sure tptb sent in Nick to interrupt and he didn't just think of it on his own at the perfect moment.

That poor thing is SO stressed Shawn will leave her when she tells him. I feel her anxiety through the screen. I can't wait for her to already get it over with myself!

Glowworm2 wrote:Wow, is this for real?! Are we victims of clever editing again or does Nick actually interrupt?

LMAO!
THAT would be a damper on so many levels.


But you know if Shawn isn't "the one" at this point , she is leading him on. You don't react to Shawn's comments as in "I Missed you....blah, blah..." if you have Nick in your mind.
You should choose your words carefully if you still haven't solidified the deal...