The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 8 July 6th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

agentcurls wrote:I'm pretty sure Kaitlyn will get an earful from Shawn after her reveal.
I'm obsessed and fascinated by how they will overcome all of this.

And I am bored and already want it to be over with how they will overcome all of this.  

That's what makes this board fun because there is room for everyone's opinions and at the end of the day, I just remember Kasha's signature line that this is just a show and team BBF is what matters most.

I'm so confused as to what we will actually see this Monday. It said there were 3 overnights..so how do we get to N overnight this epi? We know N and S come to a head...but I thought the episode description said it was when N got home from his 1/1. I'm lost! Jared has to go home before overnights, doesn't he?
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AllAboutLove wrote:

agentcurls wrote:I'm pretty sure Kaitlyn will get an earful from Shawn after her reveal.
I'm obsessed and fascinated by how they will overcome all of this.

And I am bored and already want it to be over with how they will overcome all of this.  

That's what makes this board fun because there is room for everyone's opinions and at the end of the day, I just remember Kasha's signature line that this is just a show and team BBF is what matters most.

IA, wholeheartedly!

What drives me to this board is all of the different opinions and of course dissecting all of the HUMAN behavior.
I find Kaitlyn, Shawn, and Nick the most fascinating of the whole bunch.

mprssdbyu wrote:I'm so confused as to what we will actually see this Monday. It said there were 3 overnights..so how do we get to N overnight this epi? We know N and S come to a head...but I thought the episode description said it was when N got home from his 1/1. I'm lost! Jared has to go home before overnights, doesn't he?
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Yes he does. :Nod: And then I believe we see the first overnight with Nick in the second hour.

agentcurls wrote:
What drives me to this board is all of the different opinions and of course dissecting all of the HUMAN behavior.
I find Kaitlyn, Shawn, and Nick the most fascinating of the whole bunch.

I've been seeing people on SM complain about this season being the Kaitlyn/Shawn/Nick show but TPTB knew exactly what they were doing because those three are the real story here. I honestly don't see how they could've spun their edit any other way, with what they were given. K clearly had a connection with those two guys to begin with and the cherry on top is that said men really don't like each other.

Now I'm wondering if Ben checks out or decides against overnight portion and Jared gets one too but doesn't check of his which equals 3 still. Something has to fill up the time next week. How does anything regarding N come into play...he's had his according to previews. You know they aren't going to let the drama Nick brings each week...slide. Are they? Maybe it will finally be about the couple who is engaged if I'm to believe snapgate!

Ariela wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

mindless wrote:

You can say that again! Sorry to any Shawn fans, but I find him a bit dim.

IA. If it wasn't for the spoiler I would think that Kaitlyn never chose Shawn because the guy always is needing to confront and talk. ALL the time. I am exhausted just watching him continually do this and now again when he gets a rose? Talk about wearing a person down! I think he would have worn Kaitlyn down into a corner no matter what. Manipulative on an epic scale, imo... the whole "but you told me I am the one... the one... the one".

Get over it. So annoying, imo.

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I am very suspicious of Nick's motives. I've seen a video where he states that he wants to be the Bach; it would be an honor....Like I said before, I guess I have seen too much media on Nick.

Ariela, where did you see that video of Nick saying that he wants to be the Bachelor (would be honored)?

Can you provide a link here so that I can see it?  Or else tell me where I can go to find this video?

agentcurls wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

agentcurls wrote:I'm pretty sure Kaitlyn will get an earful from Shawn after her reveal.
I'm obsessed and fascinated by how they will overcome all of this.

And I am bored and already want it to be over with how they will overcome all of this.  

That's what makes this board fun because there is room for everyone's opinions and at the end of the day, I just remember Kasha's signature line that this is just a show and team BBF is what matters most.

IA, wholeheartedly!

What drives me to this board is all of the different opinions and of course dissecting all of the HUMAN behavior.
I find Kaitlyn, Shawn, and Nick the most fascinating of the whole bunch.

It is a good time here, even more than the show itself for me! And while one season one may see things differently, another season one may see things the same, or not. It is still all good to me and why I love this forum

LenaActually wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:I'm so confused as to what we will actually see this Monday. It said there were 3 overnights..so how do we get to N overnight this epi? We know N and S come to a head...but I thought the episode description said it was when N got home from his 1/1. I'm lost! Jared has to go home before overnights, doesn't he?
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Yes he does. :Nod: And then I believe we see the first overnight with Nick in the second hour.

so in the first hour, we have Jared date, Joe drama, K telling S drama and rc? Cause we still have N overnight date, S and N drama...keeping in mind S drama at RC.

I don't think Shawn is being manipulative on purpose, but that doesn't change the fact that his actions are manipulating Kaitlyn IMO. Because of his constant need for reassurance he's always on Kaitlyn's mind, causing her to feel guilt and anxiety. She can't really focus on the other relationships even if she wanted to, because she's too busy worrying about Shawn being upset. He's basically made sure that everything revolves around him, but like I said, I don't think he's done it on purpose. I just think that if he were more self-aware and intelligent, he would realize not to act like that, unless he wants to manipulate her.

I think Jared is a prime example of someone who's not manipulative at all. He's just focusing on the positive and letting Kaitlyn do Kaitlyn.

Shawn is also arrogant. Saying stuff like "I wish you were smarter than that" and acting like he knows Nick without ever even talking to him is arrogant. He thinks he knows better and is a superior judge of character, even though he has nothing to back it up with. He's basically been acting like Kaitlyn is his from day one. Even the other guys make comments about him being top dog or whatever, so I don't think he's been the most humble guy around.

Whatever you think of Nick, I don't think he's been manipulative or even arrogant really this season. And no, I don't consider flirting with and touching the girl you like is manipulative, it's just normal. He hasn't tried to tell Kaitlyn what to do or caused her any sort of grief, apart from showing up. She's the one who let him join and invited him up to her room, so that's all on her. I also thought his tears were a genuine reaction to her distrust, which probably came out of the blue for him. It wasn't a planned whining/guilt-tripping session.

I believe the video of Nick that Ariel is referring to is from post show interviews last season. He was asked if he would consider being the next bachelor and he replied a pretty staple answer that all contestants are coached to use. He said that he would be flattered to be considered, but would have to consider if he was ready for something like that and talk to his family about it. He did not really sound like he was seriously considering it, IMO.

mprssdbyu wrote:
so in the first hour, we have Jared date, Joe drama, K telling S drama and rc? Cause we still have N overnight date, S and N drama...keeping in mind S drama at RC.

Jared already had his date ( the road trip) but no rose was given. I think we have Ben H.'s date, the RS, then the 3-on-1 (with Joe's drama), then Nick's overnight. I believe? Don't know when Kaitlyn's discussion with Shawn about Nick happens but I'm pretty sure she tells him this episode.