Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion

There are always 2 sides. I do not let it bother me anymore, because next season, all of us will be mixed up and on different sides!!

^^ So true Nutty1.  I'm definitely giving the upside down smile to folks that I love reading their posts last season.  So all's good.

Here is my perspective as someone who didn't know/care that Nick was even going to be on the show and someone who wasn't a Kaitlyn fan from the beginning (so I had no vested interest in who 'won' her) My first impression of Shawn was that he was a player used to women falling all over him as soon as he mumbled some lines with his deep voice (with a mysteriously Southern accent for a Yankee) I also thought he was fugly but that was my subjective opinion. I do like Nick but I'm not an OTT fan or anything- I barely remembered what happened during Andi's season other than Nick being hated because he referenced the FS sex at the ATFR.

What bothered me about the double standard was more about how Britt was treated in comparison with Shawn. I wasn't a huge Britt fan but she didn't bother me or anything. I can't even imagine the level of hate if she had dared to march to his room to ask if he was in love with her (with 8 other contestants left!) When Britt mildly questioned Chris about the camping date and referenced that some of the other women had a problem with it too, you would have thought she was trying to destroy BN with her daring to question the integrity of the lead (and Kaitlyn). The boards that I read practically exploded when she threatened a flounce when Chris gave the rose to Kaitlyn before hometowns. You still can't even mention her name on the official abc boards without triggering hundreds of responses about how horrible she is. She was even vilified for going to a concert (that she was invited to) on a group date. I found it very strange. I thought Kaitlyn did much the same as Chris when she left the guys on a group date to go make out with Nick but I didn't hear any criticism for that other than disgust that it was Nick.

Shawn isn't getting anywhere near that level of criticism based on any reading of message boards and SM that I've seen. I know it's different in that Shawn was supposedly told he was 'the one' but we don't know what Chris said to Britt during any of their alone time. She has never been defended as being manipulated by the producers or just given a bad edit (maybe by a few diehard fans but they are quickly shouted down) She was just despised.
This is all just my opinion of course

It is interesting to see what behavior is given a green light and what behavior is given a red light based on gender.

I am totally ok with double standards. It's human nature and I will be the first one to admit I am guilty. I am thinking Kaitlyn is the root of all problems, she seemed to bring out the worst side of Nick and Shawn, IMO. Can't wait for the season to be over soon so I can see how Kaitlyn and Shawn act and interact in the real world.

I don't think it's gender either, but Kait specific. She's the one that created a stressful situation telling Shawn he's the one and acting just as obsessed with him as he is with her. She's not letting things go normally and organically in show terms with them by her frequent visits with him, telling him way more than necessary, and just in general acting as crazy as he is with her. Jmo.

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AllAboutLove wrote:^^ IA. I actually didn't think Shawn would be as insecure/needy/manipulative/jealous/ragey as he has been, imo.
The way he behaves is like high school relationships... just a rollercoaster. All good for tv and movies but I am too old for those types of childish games.
"The other guy" nonsense? Enough already. jmo

IMO, they are ALL behaving badly, for different reasons:

1)K is not being totally honest with S as to the context of the sexcapade with N.
2)S is confused by her hot and cold behavior. He's acting like a woman with pms.
3) Nick is NOT sincere, and a back stabber:
a. He tells K about S Eskimo thing, and it's none of his business.
b. N pretends that the FS jail cell is "just fine"....so there is a pattern of N not being honest, even if it is the little things....and I'm sure he's trying to be on his best behavior the 2nd time around...


I'm loving the drama!

LOL, Nick is such a back stabber that S best friend traveled all the way to Chicago and  hung out with his old buddy. This isn't an opinion for once. It's a fact. :Nod:

Sure, a friend visit is a fact.
I'm commenting on Nick's behavior on this show, and the possible issues that many guys are having with N. There is a reason why MF is showing us these different clips. Example: Ian telling K off about she wanting to have her "fields plowed".... Then in the same epi we see K sleeping with N on a whim....

Even CH said that MEN just hate N for some reason.
All I'm saying is that the little clips were are shown of N, either telling on someone, or agreeing OBVIOUSLY to a less than desirable jail cell FS just may be the reason.

I had no opinion of N on Andi's season, until the ATFR. Now I think this entire show is a big mess, and I don't see K & S lasting, and I have to question peoples' motives who appear more than once on this show. I don't know these people personally, so I cannot comment on their entire personalities. Just "judging" what I see.

There are so many cast that double and even triple dip on these shows for whatever personal reasons. I don't limit this to this franchise, but anything that extends their 15 minutes. 
They all have their reasons. 
We could make a list and it would probably go into the hundreds, if not thousands if we extend this to commercials, other reality shows, their own spin offs etc. and even music and movie careers.

Just read this article which some may find interesting. http://thestir.cafemom.com/tv/187256/kaitlyn_bristowe_may_have_already

I don't put much stock into them being broken up unless it just happened as we had SHV photos as late as Monday this week. 
There are still weeks to go until the ATFR, so anything is game.

True Kasha I don't think there is any truth in this article about a possible break up.

Personally I think want K and S to break before aftr because Nick will get blamed for the that. They must say together and make it work