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Post by charriotoffire Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:30 pm

Cecilia wrote:
charriotoffire wrote:Saw RS' spoiler about him and I'm more confused than ever!

Did K had relations with Shawn and that's why Nick bailed?  There must be some staggering reason why he will just not propose, that's a d _k move.


RS said Nick is first out of limo, proposes and she rejects him.  Not that he doesn't propose.

Gahhh, yes my bad. deadhorse

But what kind of spoiler is that? If she rejected both, it doesn't matter who's first to get off the limo.



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Post by KB_Mom Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:31 pm

Just my reading of it, but the way RS phrased it, I don't think it excludes that Nick proposed, K said not ready to get engaged but let's date in RL. We know RS had to be soiling his undies with bodily fluids being told Nick proposed and got turned down. Was probably too busy doing happy dance :dancing peg: partytime to ask if FRC was "end of story" for K-N


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Post by charriotoffire Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:39 pm

RS doesn't seem like he's 100% sure about the details of the FRC. Nothing makes sense.

If Nick is the sex guy, there's no reason for K to just break his heart just like that. I'll go with, she didn't accept the proposal cause she just wants to date theory.

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Post by SueSt Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:46 pm

Of course this is still all speculation, but if K let Nick propose (did he get down on his knee??), I’m sorry, but I will be pissed.

If he did and he’s happy, I’m relieved. But given both of their histories on the show, I cannot justify how this could ever be ok. no no
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Post by Hotmomma Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:47 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
Alanna wrote:Steve just posted Nick was first at the frc, proposed and Kait said no. So I guess this makes Shawn the Deanna of this season.
Or she released Shawn the night of their LCD and Nick was the only one at the FRC.
That is a possibility too!
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Post by Hotmomma Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:51 pm

kaylina wrote:New poster Smiley Been following since RS first tweeted Nick was a contestant. Nick was definitely my favorite last year and am really rooting for him, so may be totally biased.

So here's my thought and sorry if it's not completely formulated. There's talk of a full Mesnick. Supposedly now RS says Nick was first at FRC, proposed and she rejected... the plane video, he talked about the Molly/Melissa/Jason stuff... what if it's all part of the ploy?
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Post by emusha Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:54 pm

Let me just say, when you are on this show, you instantly become part of the "Bachelor family." So people reach out, you build friendships, and you meet a lot of people. So I have talked to a few guys and girls from other seasons. It's just what happens. I had spoken to Nick from Andi's season a handful of times after I came home from last season, and I remember thinking, "Wow, this doesn't seem like the same guy who was on TV." He was very easy to talk to, funny, witty and incredibly supportive when I was having a difficult time with the idea of two Bachelorettes. He became my go-to person for advice. We became close – or as close as two people can become who have never really met. However, it was a relationship I had to put out of my head when I decided to give it a go as one of the Bachelorettes, knowing there was a 50 percent chance I would become The Bachelorette. So I guess in my mind it was a friendship because there was no other option … until he showed up on my date in New York. Then everything changed.

I also just want people to know that this decision to bring Nick on the show was extremely difficult for me. I have talked to a lot of guys from previous seasons, and I would not have brought any of them on if they had just shown up. But Nick was different. And there was something in my heart that said "Kaitlyn, if a sliver of you believes he could be your husband, you might have to explore it."

This makes it very clear to me that Nick never asked her to not do the bachette he might have even encouraged it if it was earlier on in their being friends and I get the sense that she had an idea that he could be developing feelings for her but not how serious those feelings were/could be since they'd never met and the risk to forgo the bachette would be too high for her to take anyway. From the way they acted together I actually don't believe the allegations about explicit texts -- their kisses and cuddling were so tender and NOT overtly sexual in the way you'd expect it to be for people who'd been sexting. it also gave me a sense for a relationship where Nick seems to be like a rock/support system for her and there's an emotional link and mutual respect that they have for each other


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Post by OnePromise Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:56 pm

Rolly wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:
Alanna wrote:Steve just posted Nick was first at the frc, proposed and Kait said no. So I guess this makes Shawn the Deanna of this season.
Or she released Shawn the night of their LCD and Nick was the only one at the FRC.

And K is dating N but not engaged...until the ATFR. Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #4 - Page 8 1710264613

Better yet...in my dreams and Fleiss's...he proposed and she said, "No, let's get married now!"

It's crazy, but refreshing. Plus didn't someone post on Twitter that she drove by the mansion on May 2nd and see filming. Maybe they filmed the FRC on the second and then the wedding on May 3rd on the beach where the make up artist who works for the show was supposedly that day. sneakyl

I love the crazy ideas!!! Never likely, but that is what makes them so appealing.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:06 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
Alanna wrote:Steve just posted Nick was first at the frc, proposed and Kait said no. So I guess this makes Shawn the Deanna of this season.
Or she released Shawn the night of their LCD and Nick was the only one at the FRC.

Oh I love your thinking!!

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Post by missfafa Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:12 pm

after watching N and K chemistry yesterday, i totally believe RS's spoiler that he is the sex guy.

but what i don't get, why nick is not the F1 ?!! it's really hard for me to believe that she would have this amazing connection with him, which in my opinion is better then any other relationship she has with the other guys including Shawn, their chemistry is good but it's not fireworks like the one she has with Nick.

why wouldn't she pick him ? RS is a reliable source but MAYBE he is wrong this time, maybe the BF tried to trick him... i am so confused this season laugh out loud

as much as i didn't like what Nick did in the AFTR to Andi, i respect him a lot, he is a very unique and sensitive guy and i hope he doesn't get hurt again this season.


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Post by Lucas15 Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:13 pm

ironcat wrote:Although it's too early to know for sure, I don't think Nick is going to get a good edit this season

Ironcat ITA and in a way it's already started with CH's interview as written by Robyn Ross. Tidbits about Nick:

Harrison: I would 120 percent question Nick's motives and the way it all went down. When they started talking, they didn't know she'd be the Bachelorette, but he had an idea. So of all people to track down it was Kaitlyn? It seemed too obvious and convenient. So, I was very leery of Nick coming back.

I guess Harrison had the same math teacher as Lacy Faddoul.

Everybody knows Nick and what he pulled and how he outed Andi and double-crossed her and was kissing and telling. However emotional it was or the reasons he did it, it wasn't a very gentlemanly or honorable thing to do.

Not only is the bomb of Nick coming in and living with them about to be dropped, but very shortly after, they'll have to deal with the fact that some of them are going home and Nick is not. Then we're off to San Antonio, Texas, and that's when the real drama begins. The relationships are tested and some of them quickly don't work. And in true Nick fashion, he doesn't try to ingratiate himself with the guys. He could come in and be humble, but he's not. He has this skill to just rub people the wrong way.

It looks to me as though Nick is going to get the "all singing / all dancing" villain edit.

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Post by SueSt Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm

^^ Can I just say I hate the duplicitous snake Chris Harrison!!  no no
ETA: Thanks for bringing the quotes over Lucas.
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