Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #3

emusha wrote:

freeflowingsalt wrote:This interview/explanation about nick's return makes more sense to me. Like they had some sort of connection, but she put it aside and went on the bachelorette. Check it:

http://www.eonline.com/videos/235665/kaitlyn-bristowe-dishes-on-the-return-of-nick-viall

I'm seeing a lot of positive body language here. Using her hands 

Here voice also lowered/or went down an octave (dunno the technical term for this) to the point where she speaks when she's vulnerable/sweet (comparable to how she was speaking to CS after he gave her the HTD rose) vs. when she's "on" and high energy (how she was talking to most of the guys night one -- except for shawn) probably cos it's a new topic she's breaching but still a positive sign for nick that she has positive feelings towards him still. She wasn't struggling or grappling with mixed feelings about him during this explanation.

I actually believe her (with some info omitted) that this is how it went down. I knew once kaitlyn got a chance to explain we'll get a version of the real truth. notice she said 'a lot of ppl in the bach world meet and talk' she stumbled a bit right there like a nano second of an "oopsie" i'm looking to when some years down the road we might get confirmation that they actually met after GMAs. i think it makes even more sense than we'd first thought which was based on logistics and sm message tone changes esp if they've been talking so much!! he prolly told her something like 'ohh u'll be in NYC?? i can come hang out in NYC next weekend and hang with with sharleen AND you' be a fun thing to do... kind of thing more than anything. i think when u are virtually talking to someone its so hard to guage real chemistry so you'd wanna know what's there with no pressure. I also think Andy and Sharleen were present due to Andy's comment on nick's IG post. I do think they were in the friend zone but very much in the flirting zone also...

I also think both of them had kind of put it out of their minds that they'd try dating then cos of the distance maybe (my own speculation) and also per her admission cos of  the fact that she might go on the bachelorette. this story actually aligns exactly with what we've learnt from their sm exchanges which is that nick was anxious about whether or not she was gonna be the bachette and up till they voted her in he was on pins and needles cos there was still a chance to date her out of the show. (I don't think it was Nick's first choice to date her on the show). on the other hand I do think the interest was mutual - she started to say "i had a connection with him..." then says something else. she also doesn't deny the fact there was something between them but she admits it but she'd put it all out of her mind and was thinking of it as a friendship cos she might potentially go on the bach. she didn't elaborate on this but u can read between the lines of how she paused and told the story and shifted gears when she's typically is very clear in her communication about how she feels exactly. at the end her face was like and it is ... "wow" she didn't say the word but her facial expression reveals that she has positive feelings about what he did to come on the show. I think per her other comment about the fact that he got a one way ticket and left his job to come for me? type of statement it made quite an impression on her that he'd do that. I say this aligns with the post which she liked on cary's IG https://instagram.com/p/2jpNiMPAy8/

 so technically i would say there was a lot of anticipation simmering under the surface between them for about a month (according to our sm sleuthing -- they were getting to know each other cos per RS and K they were talking LOT -- i get the sense esp for nick he was feeling a bit like he was running against the clock)....


Meanwhile -- yall sleuthers who were unearthing the clues around this yayyy soo excited for all that we were able to uncover that's coming to life in front of us go team!!!!
    :cheerpom: 
speaking of which: where's NR???   miss having her around!!

ironcat wrote:I agree with Lucas that Nick coming back this season, after his behavior and the edit he received his last season (and post-season), couldn't be more filled with irony, and as for a great story line, like the expression goes, "you just can't make this stuff up".  He would have to be awfully naive not to anticipate some drama or backlash this time around, but I imagine he will say that getting a chance with Kaitlyn was worth it.

So I guess here's what I don't "get" with Nick-  He is a very attractive guy, in the prime of his life, with an actual job and a promising financial future (unlike most of Bachelor Nation), seemingly normal, with no skeletons in his closet, living in a major metro city where there must be a slew of eligible single women who would love to date/marry/sleep with him, and yet he keeps running back to the Bachelor Nation cesspoo, er, well.  Was Kaitlyn really the ONLY woman he could find who interested him?  Really???? Unless, of course, it's more about being on TV again.  Color me confused.

GuardianAngel wrote:IMO if he wanted media attention he had a whole year to do that. He did his media rounds after the season ended, and went back to his life.

I believe it happened exactly as it was sleuthed out. He was watching her on Chris' season, reached out to her, clearly proven by the SM activity, and they became friends. He wanted to pursue that relationship, but she was chosen to be the 'ette.

He wanted to go after the girl and made it happen. TPTB won the lottery. JMHO

bleuberry wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:IMO if he wanted media attention he had a whole year to do that. He did his media rounds after the season ended, and went back to his life.

I believe it happened exactly as it was sleuthed out. He was watching her on Chris' season, reached out to her, clearly proven by the SM activity, and they became friends. He wanted to pursue that relationship, but she was chosen to be the 'ette.

He wanted to go after the girl and made it happen. TPTB won the lottery. JMHO

I think once his 15 mins were over, he came back for more. Media attention only lasts so long before people basically don't care anymore. You'd think he prefers it that way but no, here we are again. I don't get it.

Alanna wrote:

bleuberry wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:IMO if he wanted media attention he had a whole year to do that. He did his media rounds after the season ended, and went back to his life.

I believe it happened exactly as it was sleuthed out. He was watching her on Chris' season, reached out to her, clearly proven by the SM activity, and they became friends. He wanted to pursue that relationship, but she was chosen to be the 'ette.

He wanted to go after the girl and made it happen. TPTB won the lottery. JMHO

I think once his 15 mins were over, he came back for more. Media attention only lasts so long before people basically don't care anymore. You'd think he prefers it that way but no, here we are again. I don't get it.

Of course he's going on for the attention, adventure, and fun, isn't that what they all do? It's just disingenuous when they say otherwise imo.

reason wrote:I dont believe the spoilers and watching that preview RS is about to get his a## handed to him on a silver plater.  I re-watch that preview I see where the annoncer said may the best man win.  Guess who follow those words?  Yes nick and after years of reading and watching this show believe it Nick have that thing locked up.