Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #3

bleuberry wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:IMO if he wanted media attention he had a whole year to do that. He did his media rounds after the season ended, and went back to his life.

I believe it happened exactly as it was sleuthed out. He was watching her on Chris' season, reached out to her, clearly proven by the SM activity, and they became friends. He wanted to pursue that relationship, but she was chosen to be the 'ette.

He wanted to go after the girl and made it happen. TPTB won the lottery. JMHO

I think once his 15 mins were over, he came back for more. Media attention only lasts so long before people basically don't care anymore. You'd think he prefers it that way but no, here we are again. I don't get it.

I could say the same thing for Josh.

When I compare Josh's bid for TB compared to Nick wanting attention, it's two different in your face SM promotion. JMHO

ETA: I just saw the vid. I believe that's exactly what happened.

GuardianAngel wrote:

bleuberry wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:IMO if he wanted media attention he had a whole year to do that. He did his media rounds after the season ended, and went back to his life.

I believe it happened exactly as it was sleuthed out. He was watching her on Chris' season, reached out to her, clearly proven by the SM activity, and they became friends. He wanted to pursue that relationship, but she was chosen to be the 'ette.

He wanted to go after the girl and made it happen. TPTB won the lottery. JMHO

I think once his 15 mins were over, he came back for more. Media attention only lasts so long before people basically don't care anymore. You'd think he prefers it that way but no, here we are again. I don't get it.

I could say the same thing for Josh.

When I compare Josh's bid for TB compared to Nick wanting attention, it's two different in your face SM promotion. JMHO

ETA: I just saw the vid. I believe that's exactly what happened.

What exactly was Josh's bid for TB (assuming we are allowed to speak of Josh in Nick's thread)? According to RS, Josh has always been viewed by TPTB as a potential Bachelor, even though Andi picked him (much like Roberto was). I don't think Nick ever was, so he would need to get his media attention through other means.

Just posting this here. It may or may not mean anything:

1) Ali's season was one where RS said she chose no one as RS said with Kaitlyn. RS was incorrect about Ali's season.
2) Ali is supporting Nick and he is one of her Top 5 guys in her blog
http://www.aliluvs.com/blog/2015/5/19/we-have-a-new-bachelorette.
3) Ali tweeted her support to Nick https://twitter.com/AliFedotowsky.
4) Ali went into entertainment like Kaitlyn is said to be wanting to do by RS.
5) The other spoiled F2, Shawn B, Ali says in her blog that he is 1 of her 5 Top Guys b/c he got a FIR but that Shawn makes her "uneasy" and that she hopes he will "treat Kaitlyn right".

From what Ali has posted, it seems she has a positive view of one F2, Nick and supports him but doesn't have a very positive view of the other spoiled F2, Shawn. Interesting since her views on these two F2 are probably the least shared view with the public: that is, most viewers like Shawn and most dislike Nick. Interesting she has the opposite view.  

When Shawntel and Kacie, (was that her name from Sean' season?), returned for a second chance were they thought as media seekers wanting their 15 minutes of fame?

GA, I agree with you about Josh.

AllAboutLove wrote:Just posting this here. It may or may not mean anything:

1) Ali's season was one where RS said she chose no one as RS said with Kaitlyn. RS was incorrect about Ali's season.
2) Ali is supporting Nick and he is one of her Top 5 guys in her blog
http://www.aliluvs.com/blog/2015/5/19/we-have-a-new-bachelorette.
3) Ali tweeted her support to Nick https://twitter.com/AliFedotowsky.
4) Ali went into entertainment like Kaitlyn is said to be wanting to do by RS.
5) The other spoiled F2, Shawn B, Ali says in her blog that he is 1 of her 5 Top Guys b/c he got a FIR but that Shawn makes her "uneasy" and that she hopes he will "treat Kaitlyn right".

From what Ali has posted, it seems she has a positive view of one F2, Nick and supports him but doesn't have a very positive view of the other spoiled F2, Shawn. Interesting since her views on these two F2 are probably the least shared view with the public: that is, most viewers like Shawn and most dislike Nick. Interesting she has the opposite view.  

Ali is a flip flopper she just goes with what works for her to say in that time it drives me crazy...and that's all i'm gonna say on that..

in the mean time i do think nick and how he's grasping onto the positive support he's getting from marquel and ali reveals just how much he had a rough time last season and is hoping for a better outcome which is essentially what he tweeted to millsy i do think he's much more aware of the edit this time around given these retweets

I don't think we can take Ali seriously either. She's a reporter and it's her job to create interest.

Maybe Kait is just a happy, upbeat girl and really is single. I don't find her body language discussing Nick as anything out of the ordinary for her. JMO.

happygolucky wrote:I don't know if this was reported here already, but I liked the answer Kaitlyn gave about Nick's return:

She looked happy when discussing Nick.

Alanna wrote:I don't think we can take Ali seriously either. She's a reporter and it's her job to create interest.

Maybe Kait is just a happy, upbeat girl and really is single. I don't find her body language discussing Nick as anything out of the ordinary for her. JMO.

JMHO but you'd have to slowmotion watch her ordinary movements then watch her in those moments trying to pick up on cues THEN compare. it might even help to mute... I think body language isn't the easiest to pick up casually... you can also pay attention to her breathing patterns as she's speaking... that is also revealing along with voice and that's a separate part of it... in case u're curious to examine with an open mind...   cheers

DMBFan wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:Just posting this here. It may or may not mean anything:

1) Ali's season was one where RS said she chose no one as RS said with Kaitlyn. RS was incorrect about Ali's season.
2) Ali is supporting Nick and he is one of her Top 5 guys in her blog
http://www.aliluvs.com/blog/2015/5/19/we-have-a-new-bachelorette.
3) Ali tweeted her support to Nick https://twitter.com/AliFedotowsky.
4) Ali went into entertainment like Kaitlyn is said to be wanting to do by RS.
5) The other spoiled F2, Shawn B, Ali says in her blog that he is 1 of her 5 Top Guys b/c he got a FIR but that Shawn makes her "uneasy" and that she hopes he will "treat Kaitlyn right".

From what Ali has posted, it seems she has a positive view of one F2, Nick and supports him but doesn't have a very positive view of the other spoiled F2, Shawn. Interesting since her views on these two F2 are probably the least shared view with the public: that is, most viewers like Shawn and most dislike Nick. Interesting she has the opposite view.  

Jillian also picked Nick as F1 in her first blog.  She doesn't usually pick someone early on like that.  I thought that could be interesting….or me grasping at anything I can!!
http://www.jillianharris.com/do-what-or-who-you-want/

Jillian also picked Nick as F1 in her first blog.  She doesn't usually pick someone early on like that.  I thought that could be interesting….or me grasping at anything I can!

Interesting... has Sharleen written one yet?

emusha wrote:

Alanna wrote:I don't think we can take Ali seriously either. She's a reporter and it's her job to create interest.

Maybe Kait is just a happy, upbeat girl and really is single. I don't find her body language discussing Nick as anything out of the ordinary for her. JMO.

JMHO but you'd have to slowmotion watch her ordinary movements then watch her in those moments trying to pick up on cues THEN compare. it might even help to mute... I think body language isn't the easiest to pick up casually... you can also pay attention to her breathing patterns as she's speaking... that is also revealing along with voice and that's a separate part of it... in case u're curious to examine with an open mind...   cheers

Haha, great minds think alike, emusha. I am watching her on mute actually and trying to identify her most animated moments to see if those are the moments when she talks about Nick. I'll get back to yah - in a conf call while watching on mute.