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Post by Guest Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:52 pm

moonpie wrote:While Sean may have participated mainly to be on tv, I doubt he's the only one.  I would equate it to reasons for applying for the Bachelor - 15-minutes-of-fame, adventure, the possibility of a match, etc.  I don't think we can single him out for having less than pure motives.  There's a degree of fame-ho in all of them.

Ryan D has been on an episode of reality tv.  He said in an interview that he was recruited on social media to apply for the show and thought, why not.  Jessica is a model/actress. Jamie Otis has been on 3 reality shows (that I know of).  The Season 1 crew frequently RTs tweets asking for more spin-off shows.  The list goes on.



clapping! Good Post I agree

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Post by Beeleever Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:55 pm

I think every person sees things a certain way, based on their bias. It's human nature.

The contestants may get the final word only 10 days before the wedding, but they know well in advance where they are in the process and if they are a finalist.

I believe Davina purchased her place with that knowledge. She had no reason to believe she shouldn't, as she never had any intentions of moving outside of Manhattan.

Sean may have been willing to relocate, had all the other facets of the relationship played out differently. However, he owns his house and has an established career, so it's not as easy as just "moving out". I don't think he had any idea what to expect or how difficult this would be.

I don't believe in using social media to bring others down, in an effort to gain support for yourself. I lose respect when I see retweets that do exactly that.

I say, good for him for staying off social media. Cyber bullying is just as damaging as face-to-face bullying, or maybe even more so, because there is less opportunity to defend yourself. Once you have suffered through any kind of bullying, you don't need to put yourself back in that situation again.

I tweeted to Jaclyn, "It's a good thing that what others say about you doesn't define who you are. Your moral compass defines who you are. Stay strong." The freedom of speech gives everyone the right to voice their opinion. But that doesn't make their opinion true.

We are only seeing the pieces of this relationship that the editors want us to see for their storyboard. This is not like TB where they have cameras on them 24/7. For the most part, what we saw this week was filmed in one or two days. That leaves the majority of what happened in this relationship, off camera.  

These are all just random thoughts as I get caught up in reading this thread. JMHOAA
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Post by Ruqibabe Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:03 pm

After watching all these back, Davinaa needs to apologize to Sean and maybe goo for counseling.m

I wonder if they r still together. (still wishing)

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Post by mindless Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:06 pm

JerseyNurse wrote:
mindless wrote:
What does Sean get out of being on TV when he's not even watching the show or interacting with viewers in any way? Dr. C said he decided not to watch before filming even started. People who just want to be on TV usually make the most of it.


Anyway, Davina is getting really annoying. I don't think she should move out of Manhattan when she made it clear from the beginning that she wouldn't, but Sean did agree to move there for her, so she could at least give him a minute to adjust. It's like she expected him to jumping for joy and now that he's feeling uncomfortable, she's taking it as a personal insult. Did they leave out something significant? Because she seemed to be getting pissy for no real reason. What has she done for Sean exactly?

I do think the experts need to start seriously considering the location issues. People make sacrifices for love, but these people don't even know each other yet. Making huge sacrifices is no way to start a relationship. It's just a big distraction and a source of discomfort.

This is only a GUESS but maybe because the show didn't turn out the way he had hoped, he isn't watching it? Maybe he is ashamed because of how he acted and was embarrassed?

When he signed up for it, before he was even cast, he was all into it. He was telling anyone who would listen. Before the wedding, he was all excited about getting married. He changed in a matter of WEEKS. Now he is just unhappy. And was REALLY cranky on Valentines Day. Just didn't seem like someone who would be in love.
He was always loud and boisterous. Now he is just an irritated soul.

Well as I said, Dr. C said that Sean made his decision not to watch already before he was matched and Dr. C really pushed him on the topic because it was hard for him to believe someone wouldn't want to watch themselves on TV. Sean didn't know back then how it would turn out, so it can't be just about being embarrassed.

To me, how you describe it makes it sound like he did really want to be married, but it failed and now he's unhappy because of it. If he just wanted to be on TV, then wouldn't he be acting more like Monet? Her marriage failed too, but she was still very active on SM and wanted to be part of the sequel too.
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Post by Thomigirl Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:22 pm

JerseyNurse wrote:
mindless wrote:
JerseyNurse wrote:Sean is working a lot and has said that he isn't even watching the show. He is staying off of SM as well because he doesn't want to know what people are saying and thinking. I guess it's a blow to his ego.
I know that everyone is saying that Davina was unwilling to compromise but when she spoke to the experts, she was clear on what she wanted and it was up to them to find the best suitable match. The experts failed her. Point blank.

I just feel like Sean was in it for the wrong reasons. He wanted to be on TV. He wanted to honeymoon, etc. but once he doesn't get his way, he shuts down. This isn't fair to Davina.  I don't blame her for being bitter.

What does Sean get out of being on TV when he's not even watching the show or interacting with viewers in any way? Dr. C said he decided not to watch before filming even started. People who just want to be on TV usually make the most of it.


Anyway, Davina is getting really annoying. I don't think she should move out of Manhattan when she made it clear from the beginning that she wouldn't, but Sean did agree to move there for her, so she could at least give him a minute to adjust. It's like she expected him to jumping for joy and now that he's feeling uncomfortable, she's taking it as a personal insult. Did they leave out something significant? Because she seemed to be getting pissy for no real reason. What has she done for Sean exactly?

I do think the experts need to start seriously considering the location issues. People make sacrifices for love, but these people don't even know each other yet. Making huge sacrifices is no way to start a relationship. It's just a big distraction and a source of discomfort.

This is only a GUESS but maybe because the show didn't turn out the way he had hoped, he isn't watching it? Maybe he is ashamed because of how he acted and was embarrassed?

When he signed up for it, before he was even cast, he was all into it. He was telling anyone who would listen. Before the wedding, he was all excited about getting married. He changed in a matter of WEEKS. Now he is just unhappy. And was REALLY cranky on Valentines Day. Just didn't seem like someone who would be in love.
He was always loud and boisterous. Now he is just an irritated soul.

I don't blame the guy for being upset, especially how he's being maligned in public. Even his off screen movements are being documented in public something he didn't sign up for. I personally would be upset. They all signed up for this but for Davina to get a universal and sweeping pass, even after favoriting those tweets (disgusting and childish in my opinion)...
Having grown up and lived and worked in NYC I know plenty of Davinas. She's almost a caricature at how stereotypical she's acting. No wonder she's single.
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Post by Thomigirl Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:23 pm

Ruqibabe wrote:After watching all these back, Davinaa needs to apologize to Sean and maybe goo for counseling.m

I wonder if they r still together. (still wishing)

Yeah, this chick needs real counseling...or just hang out for the rest of her life with her BFF
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Post by Thomigirl Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:26 pm

mindless wrote:
JerseyNurse wrote:
mindless wrote:
What does Sean get out of being on TV when he's not even watching the show or interacting with viewers in any way? Dr. C said he decided not to watch before filming even started. People who just want to be on TV usually make the most of it.


Anyway, Davina is getting really annoying. I don't think she should move out of Manhattan when she made it clear from the beginning that she wouldn't, but Sean did agree to move there for her, so she could at least give him a minute to adjust. It's like she expected him to jumping for joy and now that he's feeling uncomfortable, she's taking it as a personal insult. Did they leave out something significant? Because she seemed to be getting pissy for no real reason. What has she done for Sean exactly?

I do think the experts need to start seriously considering the location issues. People make sacrifices for love, but these people don't even know each other yet. Making huge sacrifices is no way to start a relationship. It's just a big distraction and a source of discomfort.

This is only a GUESS but maybe because the show didn't turn out the way he had hoped, he isn't watching it? Maybe he is ashamed because of how he acted and was embarrassed?

When he signed up for it, before he was even cast, he was all into it. He was telling anyone who would listen. Before the wedding, he was all excited about getting married. He changed in a matter of WEEKS. Now he is just unhappy. And was REALLY cranky on Valentines Day. Just didn't seem like someone who would be in love.
He was always loud and boisterous. Now he is just an irritated soul.

Well as I said, Dr. C said that Sean made his decision not to watch already before he was matched and Dr. C really pushed him on the topic because it was hard for him to believe someone wouldn't want to watch themselves on TV. Sean didn't know back then how it would turn out, so it can't be just about being embarrassed.

To me, how you describe it makes it sound like he did really want to be married, but it failed and now he's unhappy because of it. If he just wanted to be on TV, then wouldn't he be acting more like Monet? Her marriage failed too, but she was still very active on SM and wanted to be part of the sequel too.

Great point mindless. I agree. Jamie was dragged through the mud almost throughout the season for how she was towards Doug but she STAYED all over SM. Granted that's because they ended up staying married, but still. I have to agree with you.
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:27 pm

Thomigirl wrote:
JerseyNurse wrote:
mindless wrote:

What does Sean get out of being on TV when he's not even watching the show or interacting with viewers in any way? Dr. C said he decided not to watch before filming even started. People who just want to be on TV usually make the most of it.


Anyway, Davina is getting really annoying. I don't think she should move out of Manhattan when she made it clear from the beginning that she wouldn't, but Sean did agree to move there for her, so she could at least give him a minute to adjust. It's like she expected him to jumping for joy and now that he's feeling uncomfortable, she's taking it as a personal insult. Did they leave out something significant? Because she seemed to be getting pissy for no real reason. What has she done for Sean exactly?

I do think the experts need to start seriously considering the location issues. People make sacrifices for love, but these people don't even know each other yet. Making huge sacrifices is no way to start a relationship. It's just a big distraction and a source of discomfort.

This is only a GUESS but maybe because the show didn't turn out the way he had hoped, he isn't watching it? Maybe he is ashamed because of how he acted and was embarrassed?

When he signed up for it, before he was even cast, he was all into it. He was telling anyone who would listen. Before the wedding, he was all excited about getting married. He changed in a matter of WEEKS. Now he is just unhappy. And was REALLY cranky on Valentines Day. Just didn't seem like someone who would be in love.
He was always loud and boisterous. Now he is just an irritated soul.

I don't blame the guy for being upset, especially how he's being maligned in public. Even his off screen movements are being documented in public something he didn't sign up for. I personally would be upset. They all signed up for this but for Davina to get a universal and sweeping pass, even after favoriting those tweets (disgusting and childish in my opinion)...
Having grown up and lived and worked in NYC I know plenty of Davinas. She's almost a caricature at how stereotypical she's acting. No wonder she's single.
so true. He is brave tho. I would have left that hospital by now.

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Post by Thomigirl Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:28 pm

Beeleever wrote:I think every person sees things a certain way, based on their bias. It's human nature.

The contestants may get the final word only 10 days before the wedding, but they know well in advance where they are in the process and if they are a finalist.

I believe Davina purchased her place with that knowledge. She had no reason to believe she shouldn't, as she never had any intentions of moving outside of Manhattan.

Sean may have been willing to relocate, had all the other facets of the relationship played out differently. However, he owns his house and has an established career, so it's not as easy as just "moving out". I don't think he had any idea what to expect or how difficult this would be.

I don't believe in using social media to bring others down, in an effort to gain support for yourself. I lose respect when I see retweets that do exactly that.

I say, good for him for staying off social media. Cyber bullying is just as damaging as face-to-face bullying, or maybe even more so, because there is less opportunity to defend yourself. Once you have suffered through any kind of bullying, you don't need to put yourself back in that situation again.

I tweeted to Jaclyn, "It's a good thing that what others say about you doesn't define who you are. Your moral compass defines who you are. Stay strong." The freedom of speech gives everyone the right to voice their opinion. But that doesn't make their opinion true.

We are only seeing the pieces of this relationship that the editors want us to see for their storyboard. This is not like TB where they have cameras on them 24/7. For the most part, what we saw this week was filmed in one or two days. That leaves the majority of what happened in this relationship, off camera.  

These are all just random thoughts as I get caught up in reading this thread. JMHOAA

Bed I love your tweet to Jaclyn, so spot on...like your post. And you're right, sometimes it is hard not to be biased when looking at certain situations.
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Post by Ruqibabe Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:31 pm

Thomigirl wrote:
JerseyNurse wrote:
mindless wrote:

What does Sean get out of being on TV when he's not even watching the show or interacting with viewers in any way? Dr. C said he decided not to watch before filming even started. People who just want to be on TV usually make the most of it.


Anyway, Davina is getting really annoying. I don't think she should move out of Manhattan when she made it clear from the beginning that she wouldn't, but Sean did agree to move there for her, so she could at least give him a minute to adjust. It's like she expected him to jumping for joy and now that he's feeling uncomfortable, she's taking it as a personal insult. Did they leave out something significant? Because she seemed to be getting pissy for no real reason. What has she done for Sean exactly?

I do think the experts need to start seriously considering the location issues. People make sacrifices for love, but these people don't even know each other yet. Making huge sacrifices is no way to start a relationship. It's just a big distraction and a source of discomfort.

This is only a GUESS but maybe because the show didn't turn out the way he had hoped, he isn't watching it? Maybe he is ashamed because of how he acted and was embarrassed?

When he signed up for it, before he was even cast, he was all into it. He was telling anyone who would listen. Before the wedding, he was all excited about getting married. He changed in a matter of WEEKS. Now he is just unhappy. And was REALLY cranky on Valentines Day. Just didn't seem like someone who would be in love.
He was always loud and boisterous. Now he is just an irritated soul.

I don't blame the guy for being upset, especially how he's being maligned in public. Even his off screen movements are being documented in public something he didn't sign up for. I personally would be upset. They all signed up for this but for Davina to get a universal and sweeping pass, even after favoriting those tweets (disgusting and childish in my opinion)...
Having grown up and lived and worked in NYC I know plenty of Davinas. She's almost a caricature at how stereotypical she's acting. No wonder she's single.

I don't think Davina is getting a pass. Iff you check MAFS facebook page, she is taking a lot of bashing.

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Post by Jadeh Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:58 pm

I blame the experts. I suspect that the formula for the experts is find the best matches but that they must be somewhat photogenic and there must be some hurdles or conflict (makes for more exciting TV). The differences between D & S is too great(remember Vaughn lived in Central Jersey and Monet lived in Harlem). If you really want to be married you make compromises. Neither of these two are willing to do that - in part because they are both dominated by their own fears. Davina defines herself by her jobs and her friends, all of which are in NYC. Leaving them to marry a stranger - a very risk proposition in itself - would be terrifying. Sean, opens up and wants sympathy, but I have seen no empathy. To make a marriage work you need to have shared values, willingness to compromise, and be straight with yourself and your spouse. These are the issues that I recall from the casting episode that have come true: Davina said that she would not leave NYC, Dr. C said Ryan D had an edgy temper (how about a short fuse?), Ryan R. said it would be hard for him to leave his mom (couple of things on that- he is 28 and not left home, he seems to have stepped in when his parents split 18 years ago), Jaclyn said admitted to walling her self off (she also said that she was an all in or all out girl), Sean was bullied in the past which could suggest poor personal skills (that is not meant to blame the victim, I was bullied as a child to the point that when we moved in 4th grade two little girls made everyone saying they were glad hated me (happened in the very last few minutes of class when the teacher left the room and what I mean by bad skills is that he may have been shy, nerdy and not stood up for himself, that took me years to overcome).

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Post by emusha Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:11 pm

Sean and Davinia and their constant overanalysis is exhausting - Dr. C put it perfectly when he pointed that out...
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