Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion

by mnmhughes Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:50 am

Tnmomof4 wrote:
alsoaktchr wrote:Welcome Tnmom!
We were posting at the same time.... Hmmm, I know Ash reacted well at Dino's HTD.... but he seems even further behind Ben in the physical component, which makes it hard for me to imagine he was F2. But you might be right....

True, I never saw him as F2 either, but I don't know how much of that was because I was "spoiled" and how much of it was due to the fact that he just wasn't into Ashley. I did see Ashley being into him though. HTD, to me, showed more of a deep friendship connection with Ben. She seemed a tad more "giddy" around Constantine. After htd's possibly he moved ahead of Ben just because of the family situation. She loved his family. If JP was F1 already in her heart, it didn't really matter who was F2 anyway so who knows, she may have just thought, "take Constantine, he really isn't into me, we can have fun." If Jp is F1 I just really don't see him taking a backseat to anyone this far along, but of course tonight's episode will definitely make us think he did.

:smileywelcome:

Also, I think that if Dino HAD made it to F2, they would have edited him differently and it may have seemed like a tighter race.
But since he left of his own accord at F3, TPTB had no choice but to edit Ash and Ben's relationship in the way which they did.
Nice post! yes

by Living Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:50 am

bilolo wrote:oh gosh we are not on the same page
some take what CH says as a clue others not

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You are right there. Sometimes I wish we will all take note of the clues that panned out so that the next season we know which are real clues and which are fluff. Unfortunately each season, we seem to forget the clues we got the season before and look to be starting out.

Lets's take this for example. IF Ben ends up being F1, we need to remember CH words are very important and are clues . Or if not, that CH is just blowing air.

by ironcat Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:51 am

If CH was referring to who was being edited as F1 up until that point (JP) changing, then he is also saying that the change, presumably to Ben, is also just in the edit, not in reality. So by the end, the edit will indicate (or mislead us into believing) that Ben is F1, and then we will be able to have our typical "shocking" ending when it turns out in reality to be JP.

by ironcat Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:02 am

pbmax wrote:
jelle wrote:JP has talked several times about the relationship that didnt work out that was so devastating. He first spoke of it on their first 1:1 date. There is another time he talks about it when she asks him when was the last time he cried. Not sure how you can say he is keeping secrets, especially since his whole family discussed it on the HTD.

He says he has had a series of short term dates from 22 - 30. Then he had a two year relationship that ended badly.

Yet haven't heard what was so heart-broken about it. How can you be so heart-broken when you broke off the relationship. Ashley is wondering if he won't do the same to her.

And what exactly have we heard about Ben's past relationships, other than that he brought a girl home once? Big fat zero, so what does that say?

by deedreamer Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:19 am

ironcat wrote:
pbmax wrote:
jelle wrote:JP has talked several times about the relationship that didnt work out that was so devastating. He first spoke of it on their first 1:1 date. There is another time he talks about it when she asks him when was the last time he cried. Not sure how you can say he is keeping secrets, especially since his whole family discussed it on the HTD.

He says he has had a series of short term dates from 22 - 30. Then he had a two year relationship that ended badly.

Yet haven't heard what was so heart-broken about it. How can you be so heart-broken when you broke off the relationship. Ashley is wondering if he won't do the same to her.

And what exactly have we heard about Ben's past relationships, other than that he brought a girl home once? Big fat zero, so what does that say?

You can be in a relationship where the other person is not good for you but they are content to continue with the status quo. You may love them with all you heart but if the realtionship is not healthy you might have to use your head and break your own heart by ending it. Sometimes this hurts worse than if they had been the one to end it.

by Diana Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:21 am

New caps tonight! Smiley

by Bronwyn Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:28 am

Diana wrote:New caps tonight!

I was just getting ready to ask if there would be new previews tonight of the FRC, or would all the previews be for the MTA, or a mixture of both?

by LibbyBell Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:32 am

Tnmomof4 wrote: with the three guys she has left, things aren't quite as smooth. By the end of next week, the order of who's on top will change.

This statement, which of course is meant to make us believe that Ben goes ahead of JP could also mean (since CH is talking about all 3) that because of what Constantine does, Ben goes "on top". Prior to the FD, JP and Constantine were "on top", now JP and Ben are "on top".
After the htd I definitely got the impression that Constantine was her 2nd choice. My unspoiled friend actually was surprised that Ben did not go home last week. Just a thought.

Tnmomof4, this is a good point. i can see that this is how they are spinning the "the order will change".

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by Living Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:40 am

LibbyBell wrote:
Tnmomof4 wrote: with the three guys she has left, things aren't quite as smooth. By the end of next week, the order of who's on top will change.

This statement, which of course is meant to make us believe that Ben goes ahead of JP could also mean (since CH is talking about all 3) that because of what Constantine does, Ben goes "on top". Prior to the FD, JP and Constantine were "on top", now JP and Ben are "on top".
After the htd I definitely got the impression that Constantine was her 2nd choice. My unspoiled friend actually was surprised that Ben did not go home last week. Just a thought.

Tnmomof4, this is a good point. i can see that this is how they are spinning the "the order will change".

BTW--

I do not know if you read the original CH wording. He said JP is at the top now but that will change.

by LibbyBell Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:44 am

Living wrote:
LibbyBell wrote:
Tnmomof4 wrote: with the three guys she has left, things aren't quite as smooth. By the end of next week, the order of who's on top will change.

This statement, which of course is meant to make us believe that Ben goes ahead of JP could also mean (since CH is talking about all 3) that because of what Constantine does, Ben goes "on top". Prior to the FD, JP and Constantine were "on top", now JP and Ben are "on top".
After the htd I definitely got the impression that Constantine was her 2nd choice. My unspoiled friend actually was surprised that Ben did not go home last week. Just a thought.

Tnmomof4, this is a good point. i can see that this is how they are spinning the "the order will change".

BTW--

I do not know if you read the original CH wording. He said JP is at the top now but that will change.

Definitely something to ponder-- thanks for pointing it out Living. Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion - Page 22 550657593

by nutty1 Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:45 am

Everyone at this point is going to be trying to see how things point to their favorite. But I do believe Chris talks the company talk, Bentley being a prime example. If the edit shows Joe Schmo to be a crybaby, even if he really isn't, Chris will refer to him as a crybaby. That's the point I was making, not that it was changing JP being F1.

What Chris says is worth taking note of, IMO.

On the off chance Ben would be F1, he is saying "the (edited) frontrunner guy at the HTD's is not going to be the winner". JMO, of course, and that's JUST AN EXAMPLE, not saying Ben is F1.

I cannot wait for previews tonite. We will see FRC ones, don't you think?? Get ready for shadow analysis!!!

by Kashathediva Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:46 am

bilolo wrote:oh gosh we are not on the same page
some take what CH says as a clue others not

CH is a front man for the show and should be taken with a grain of salt. Anything more and it would be like taking financial advice from Bernie Madoff--kind of unwise. JMO
CH perpetuates MF's ponzi scheme, nothing more, nothing less.

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