Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion

Samantharose wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

I think cupcakes deduced that JP didn't get up & leave at that
moment when Ben started discussing his date...TPTB wanted us to believe
that, but it was spliced & diced. Him getting up & leaving is
footage from him leaving his hotel room for his own date I think.

I thought Lucus said in his exit interview that JP did leave after Ben got back from his 1-1 date? Maybe he just got up and went to the other room and the screencaps are actually of him leaving for the group date.

I think there was a screen cap that showed Ryan sitting in the chair by the couch and you could see JP's legs sitting on the couch.

That's how I remember it, Samantha.

Titou wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Why would JP wear Bens watch? Dsg has on Ben's watch.

well why would JP would not be able to have this kind of watch?

he came back to his home before the fantasy date right? so why not taking this watch for the big day?

I mean there is not only ONE watch in the world that ben is ONLY using.

I understand that we saw ben with a similar but ....... can we have an open mind on this???

I have to ask... are you being serious?

Beeleever wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

I think cupcakes deduced that JP didn't get up & leave at that
moment when Ben started discussing his date...TPTB wanted us to believe
that, but it was spliced & diced. Him getting up & leaving is
footage from him leaving his hotel room for his own date I think.

I thought Lucus said in his exit interview that JP did leave after Ben got back from his 1-1 date? Maybe he just got up and went to the other room and the screencaps are actually of him leaving for the group date.

Someone pointed this out with a screencap but I can't remember who...

The door that JP walked out was his bedroom door. It was a single dark color that was seen in his bedroom when he was putting on his blue plaid shirt. The door to go out of the unit itself was that white double wide door that Ben came in with his suitcase.

I do remember cupcakes posting screencaps that proved JP was leaving for the group date not storming out. So what do you think Lucus was referring to when he said JP did storm off? Was that just the edit?

Love_Me wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

I think cupcakes deduced that JP didn't get up & leave at that
moment when Ben started discussing his date...TPTB wanted us to believe
that, but it was spliced & diced. Him getting up & leaving is
footage from him leaving his hotel room for his own date I think.

I thought Lucus said in his exit interview that JP did leave after Ben got back from his 1-1 date? Maybe he just got up and went to the other room and the screencaps are actually of him leaving for the group date.

Someone pointed this out with a screencap but I can't remember who...

The door that JP walked out was his bedroom door. It was a single dark color that was seen in his bedroom when he was putting on his blue plaid shirt. The door to go out of the unit itself was that white double wide door that Ben came in with his suitcase.

I do remember cupcakes posting screencaps that proved JP was leaving for the group date not storming out. So what do you think Lucus was referring to when he said JP did storm off? Was that just the edit?

Maybe he left for a few minutes, but then came back?

I think JP actually did get up and leave because you see him do it while Ben's still talking and Lucas watches him go. The Ryan part was just edited in out of sequence like they often do with the RC tapes which is why we see them with roses before they get one. Perhaps they liked his reaction but it doesn't mean JP didn't leave which Lucas confirmed.

Love_Me wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

I think cupcakes deduced that JP didn't get up & leave at that
moment when Ben started discussing his date...TPTB wanted us to believe
that, but it was spliced & diced. Him getting up & leaving is
footage from him leaving his hotel room for his own date I think.

I thought Lucus said in his exit interview that JP did leave after Ben got back from his 1-1 date? Maybe he just got up and went to the other room and the screencaps are actually of him leaving for the group date.

Someone pointed this out with a screencap but I can't remember who...

The door that JP walked out was his bedroom door. It was a single dark color that was seen in his bedroom when he was putting on his blue plaid shirt. The door to go out of the unit itself was that white double wide door that Ben came in with his suitcase.

I do remember cupcakes posting screencaps that proved JP was leaving for the group date not storming out. So what do you think Lucus was referring to when he said JP did storm off? Was that just the edit?

Maybe he "stormed out" of the room they were having the conversation in, but it wasn't the main doors going out of the unit.

Beeleever wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

I think cupcakes deduced that JP didn't get up & leave at that
moment when Ben started discussing his date...TPTB wanted us to believe
that, but it was spliced & diced. Him getting up & leaving is
footage from him leaving his hotel room for his own date I think.

I thought Lucus said in his exit interview that JP did leave after Ben got back from his 1-1 date? Maybe he just got up and went to the other room and the screencaps are actually of him leaving for the group date.

Someone pointed this out with a screencap but I can't remember who...

The door that JP walked out was his bedroom door. It was a single dark color that was seen in his bedroom when he was putting on his blue plaid shirt. The door to go out of the unit itself was that white double wide door that Ben came in with his suitcase.

I do remember cupcakes posting screencaps that proved JP was leaving for the group date not storming out. So what do you think Lucus was referring to when he said JP did storm off? Was that just the edit?

Maybe he "stormed out" of the room they were having the conversation in, but it wasn't the main doors going out of the unit.

question.. I don't remember but maybe somebody else will, do we actually see JP leave while we can see Ben talking or do we see JP get up and only hear Ben talking? (edited to look like he did) I'd go look myself as I have them all pvr'd but I"m watching 310 to Yuma right now.

Titou - I don't think JP would have a different watch because I don't think I'd just trade in a six thousand dollar watch on a lark... that is probably an investment I'd keep till it wears down/has to be replaced

I just checked and he leaves while Ben is confirming that they did not share a room and you can see him talking. It looks to me like JP is leaving by another door. It is a suite so probably has more than one.

bing2262 wrote:

Coastal wrote:

Titou wrote:the second is JP





IF it is then it would mean that the blue shirt with the square watch is JP

and the other guy standing in front of ashley would be ben

Doesn't the watch match Ben though?? I thought that was figured out a while ago??

Watches are accessories and it is possible JP and Ben wore identical ones . I know JP has a similar type of watch as Ben's or did TPTB made sure they wore identical watches ?Regarding the shoes size,however, that is something that is unique to JP or Ben. Unless Ben's and JP's shoe size are the same then I guess Titou is on to something. More sleuthing needed, carry on Titou. :D

you are always very sweet with me and you always give me a smile. Thank you for your kindness


note: I am working very very hard to find clear view of ben and jp's feet right now LOL

albean99 wrote:I just checked and he leaves while Ben is confirming that they did not share a room and you can see him talking. It looks to me like JP is leaving by another door. It is a suite so probably has more than one.

thanks for checking that out I think it was more of a case of him not wanting to hear about the date than it was about him "storming" out of hte room. I think it was probably more of the "straw that broke the camels' back" thing, and that Dino and Lucas were razzing him all morning about Ben not being home yet. It seems like the guys all knew that JP had really fallen for her and probably took delight in getting a rise out of him. No wonder MF won't let them watch tv or read (or is that just big Brother ).... where would he get his drama from

I think it would be very arrogant from our part to think that the producers did not learn their past lessons.

Last season Chantal said loud and clear that she knew that she was not the F1 because it was too early in the day

do you think it was not noticed and noted by the producers???

I would also assume that forums like this one or FORT is important for so many things:

general opinion so they can pick the popular next bachelor(ette)....
the sleuthers, so they can not repeat the same mistake at the FRC

Now it seems that they pick a plane or a boat for the arrival. The boat was a good idea until the tabloid zoomed roberto... plane is better because you can zoom all you want, they will get nada.... so no more sleuthing with the limos

we do not see hands anymore. there is this possibility of no proposal

so this said...

I am not surprise that both suit looks alike. I would not be surprised that they had the same accessories for the FRC

the only difference that we can clearly notice is the color of the shirt so far and maybe the feet.

The watch for me is not conclusive to be sure 100% it is Ben... although I do not refuse the possibility

I have an open mind