Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Discussion

Gina wrote:All my unspoiled g/f's said that JP is the only guy who seems to really care and looks like he's fallen in love. They said a few others are like robots. I laughed, (they are unspoiled). They asked me, "so which one of the longhaired brothers makes it to the finale". I said, they are not brothers, they just resemble each other. Hilarious what some of the unspoiled viewers, who are not invested think. :giggle:

Samantharose wrote:

Gina wrote:All my unspoiled g/f's said that JP is the only guy who seems to really care and looks like he's fallen in love. They said a few others are like robots. I laughed, (they are unspoiled). They asked me, "so which one of the longhaired brothers makes it to the finale". I said, they are not brothers, they just resemble each other. Hilarious what some of the unspoiled viewers, who are not invested think. :giggle:

I have a group of unspoiled co-workers that watch. They hated Bentley. They love Ames. They like Ben and Dino's bromance. They think JP is too sensitive and are sick of hearing him whine about his past relationship. None of them want to see Ryan as the next Bachelor. The group likes Mickey or Ames for next Bachelor.

Titou wrote:
GOT IT!!!!!!!

Remember when JP says: It is hard because she may not love me......

that we hear in the voice???

JP is referring to ahley's sister!!!!!!!!


ps: too excited to remember the exact sentense here LOL

Titou wrote:
GOT IT!!!!!!!

Remember when JP says: It is hard because she may not love me......

that we hear in the voice???

JP is referring to ahley's sister!!!!!!!!


ps: too excited to remember the exact sentense here LOL

pavalygurl wrote:

atlanta1221 wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:She says she's met the man of her dreams and she's so certain with the way she feels about him and then you hear a shout of yeah, and two people laughing. Here it is at the :50 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8kWjTQrvu0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Oh, I always thought that was Ben and he was yelling "yeah" while on the boat and then Ashley laughs.

Ya know, I think that is Ben's "yeah" also.

GrahamGal wrote:

Titou wrote:
GOT IT!!!!!!!

Remember when JP says: It is hard because she may not love me......

that we hear in the voice???

JP is referring to ahley's sister!!!!!!!!


ps: too excited to remember the exact sentense here LOL

Hmmmmm... interesting What episode was this in and about when?

Titou wrote:

GrahamGal wrote:

Titou wrote:
GOT IT!!!!!!!

Remember when JP says: It is hard because she may not love me......

that we hear in the voice???

JP is referring to ahley's sister!!!!!!!!


ps: too excited to remember the exact sentense here LOL

Hmmmmm... interesting What episode was this in and about when?

it is a voice over in one of the teaser.... we can hear clearly him saying that

there is Ryan who says: it is hard that her heart is not there for me... but there is another voice over from JP saying something like that too

JBF wrote:

Titou wrote:

GrahamGal wrote:

Titou wrote:
GOT IT!!!!!!!

Remember when JP says: It is hard because she may not love me......

that we hear in the voice???

JP is referring to ahley's sister!!!!!!!!


ps: too excited to remember the exact sentense here LOL

Hmmmmm... interesting What episode was this in and about when?

it is a voice over in one of the teaser.... we can hear clearly him saying that

there is Ryan who says: it is hard that her heart is not there for me... but there is another voice over from JP saying something like that too

Are we talking about these lines?
(all spliced & diced, no doubt): It makes it a little more difficult for me knowing that she’s probably not in love with me.
A few have suggested that this is a out-with-Dino-or-Ben line from Taiwan, when he had his rough rough week.

Now this line we are mostly certain comes from Taiwan: She’s gotta know that I’m flustered and that I’m upset.

JBF wrote:Some of this was discussed in previous threads. Hope I’m not too “windy” here. Also, because I "was not THERE", obviously I’m just “speculating”…

I think Ames was the last to see the “Jordash” connection and that is why we saw all of his facial reactions close-up during the wedding photo shoot. The camera crew wanted to show SOMEBODY looking surprised.

When Blake called JP a sandbagger in Hong Kong, it proved that he, and probably Ben and Constantine as well, knew he was Top Man, as far as Ashley was concerned. She had seen Bentley BEFORE her date with Lucas and the dragon boat race. She told JP FIRST and he made a HUGE blunder telling them. (Chris Harrison's "cocky" comment may not have been directed to Ashley.)

Lucas and Ryan both made comments at that point, but they were edited out. Ryan already suspected it back in Phuket and, despite being happy about his 1 on 1 date in Taiwan, he used the word "hopeful" a lot with Ashley, suggesting that he knew he would not make the next RC.

Ben, in the Taroka Gorges, was only confident about a hometown... he may have known he wasn't final one at that point. He made two "digs" at JP in Taiwan: first by delaying his "we had separate rooms" statement until JP started to leave and later sarcastically telling Ryan that Lucas would bring back the group rose. Ashley Spivey made a snide comment about that on the abc.com commentary, but I think Ben was hinting to Ryan that roses on these group dates are NOT what they seem. She may give you a rose simply to distract others. If Ashley gives you a rose because you "impressed" her at the orphanage date, she may just be giving it to you because Ryan is unpopular and JP too obvious. Same was true with Blake getting it the next week. Ben was irked... and I don't blame him for feeling "played".

Of course, just because you suspect that the "game is over", doesn't mean you don't make a go at it. Constantine drops out, but Ben pushes on and, apparently, proposes to her. I do believe both fijiman and Coastal's sources are correct with their information: Ashley DOES see Ben sometime after the final rose ceremony. Yet, this may be a dot.dot.dot. sort of thing, since Ben might possibly get very, very upset.

We do know about the battle she has with Chrystie, but this may get resolved BEFORE the final rose ceremony. Key words: "I woke up today thinking this was gonna be a great day, and now it’s ruined, you know? And it’s so like cruel. It’s not fair."

Why would she say it was going to be a great day if her family situation was still bothering her? In at least one interview, she stated that her family supports her decision. A few of us found this odd after watching those previews, but as even Reality Steve pointed out, all of this happened in the past.

Sorry if this post is a bit scattered here...

Coastal wrote:
I don't believe I said anywhere that Ashley sees Ben AFTER the FRC. Could you refresh my memory from my posts that I said that.........thanks.

As far as you saying that in Ryan's PI's him saying hopeful.........how do you know that he knew he wasn't going to make the next RC at that time??

Now with Ben in Taroko Gorge...........first of all, how would he of known that he wouldn't be the F1 at that point, considering his and Ash's connection was heating up there? Next, I don't believe from watching the show that he hesitated telling the guys that they weren't in the same room........he was answering the questions as he was being asked. IMO, in no way did Ben take a dig at JP in that episode........