Chris Soules - Whitney Bischoff - Bachelor 19 - Discussion

MVMom39forever wrote:

sfrank wrote:I've seen several folks make hay over Chris picking out a Neil Lang ring "just for Whitney" because Neil said it was for her. I just don't think its as significant as some might think:

1. Becca made it clear that she would not accept a ring so by default it could have only been for Whitney anyway

2. The ring is more about spectacle and the value exchange of marketing...Juan picked out a ring as did Brad 1.0. Neil Lane's contract stipulates that I am sure  - as did Chopard and Tacori before that.  It's a foregone conclusion that Neil will hand over one of his rings to the Bachelor - almost as it is that very same ring will be returned to him months later.

In all due respect, Neil was there after all and here's what he had to say:

“This ring really fits her,” he says. “She has a strong personality, but there’s a huge feminine part to her, and there’s a sophistication to her too. She likes detail – you can see it in her dress and you can see it in her style.”

And while Soules did seem a bit nervous while picking out the ring, Lane says it was more the anticipation at the thought of marrying the 29-year-old fertility nurse rather than any doubts about his choice.

“He was super excited,” Lane says. “He talked about her in such a glowing way. He just could see being with her. The guy was totally in love. He was effervescent about it.”

Source: http://stylenews.peoplestylewatch.com/2015/03/10/whitney-bischoff-neil-lane-engagement-ring-chris-soules-exclusive/

mindless wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:I've never heard of anyone turning down a safehouse visit.

GA neither have I. The fact that we can't always track where and when they occur doesn't mean anything more than that we can't track them; it doesn't mean they didn't happen.

In this particular case we know that Whitney owns a condo in Chicago which is easy driving distance from Iowa and a good hideout if they chose to stay there; but that's not the only place they could have met.

*snip*

That's the thing, I don't expect there to be any physical evidence or possibility to track them down, since we all know these two are not into SM. It's the fact that they haven't so much as referenced them in any interviews. All the successful couples have talked about the safe house visits when asked if they've spent much time together after filming. These two just said they've spent some time together, not much, and that she drove to the farm a couple of times. That combined with their awkwardly unaffectionate behaviour immediately made me think that maybe they just haven't spent as much time in each other's company post show as some of the other couples. And if they haven't then that begs the question, why?

Kashathediva wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Speculating, because we sleuth and speculate based on previous information and/or facts, we know they had unauthorized visits, that is a fact. IMO that must have been because they wanted more than the authorized visits. The authorized ones took place in safehouses, they weren't enough so they took it upon themselves to have the unauthorized ones in the middle of nowhere in Arlington, where a neighbour saw a blonde. TY btw to the source that provided that info.

Why would they have unauthorized visits and no safehouse visits? TPTB IMO wouldn't prohibit them from having s/h visits.

Thank you.
This is what I said earlier. And--if they had chosen to not have safe house visits, I don't for a minute believe CH would not have brought this up at the ATFR.  

by GuardianAngel on Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:07 pm

I have been given information and was asked to share with the forum. Thank you for this information, and anyone who shares information with us, it's appreciated.  

Apparently, Chris's mother has a very good friend. Chris' mother mentioned to her friend he will not be home for Thanksgiving as he will be in Chicago. Chris also told his mother's friend he won't be home for Thanksgiving because he'll be in Chicago. The sisters were apparently home in Iowa for TG.

The mother’s friend lives approximately one mile away. She apparently saw a blonde over there but didn’t know who it was. When she was introduced as being from Chicago, the mothers friend felt that Whitney is F1.

I don't know what "saw a blonde over there" means. If it was from a distance, although one mile away is pretty far, or if this friend was at the Soule's home.

I don't know what "when she was introduced as being from Chicago" means, I'm assuming it means when the show aired unless this lady was there during MTP which was filmed before TG.

ElonM wrote:I think it was mentioned that Becca had the last LCD. She specifically told him that she wasn't there yet ie in love and ready to get engaged.

So going into picking the ring Chris had already made up his mind that he was going to pick Whitney given where Becca was emotionally at the time.

Hence, I see no reason for him to be conflicted.  

whit90 wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:

albean99 wrote:I recall that they didn't show them talking to Whitney about what part she'd play with the farm. That was a big clue to me. What we did see was the red herring - the conflict and his dad talking about Whitney & Becca. With all we've seen with editing of seasons past it's hard to take much of anything they show in the finale at face value until the FRC itself.

I still think Jade would have been the f2 instead of Becca if not for her big reveal. She & Whitney were the only ones to go to his home. That's big imo.

I say this over and over but it's all subjective. None of us are likely to change our opinions about what we did or didn't see.

He also gave Jade the high school jacket.

He also gave Becca a Birthday present. JMO

MVMom39forever wrote:

ElonM wrote:I think it was mentioned that Becca had the last LCD. She specifically told him that she wasn't there yet ie in love and ready to get engaged.

So going into picking the ring Chris had already made up his mind that he was going to pick Whitney given where Becca was emotionally at the time.

Hence, I see no reason for him to be conflicted.  

IMO Chris would have picked Whitney in the end regardless of where Becca stood emotionally.

If he was "in love" with Becca, he would not have been acting "totally in love" and "effervescent" per Neil Lane in the above cited People mag article the next day while picking out ring for Whitney.

ElonM wrote:I think it was mentioned that Becca had the last LCD. She specifically told him that she wasn't there yet ie in love and ready to get engaged.

So going into picking the ring Chris had already made up his mind that he was going to pick Whitney given where Becca was emotionally at the time.

Hence, I see no reason for him to be conflicted.  

eirekay wrote:

whit90 wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:

He also gave Jade the high school jacket.

He also gave Becca a Birthday present. JMO

But Chris spent HIS Birthday with Whitney! Maybe that's the present he gave himself?