Chris Soules - Whitney Bischoff - Bachelor 19 - Discussion

FLChica wrote:

lexforlife wrote: IMO, after the show is when the relationship actually starts.

So true and that is exactly what several Bach couples have admitted! They understand that what happened on the show was just "the show". It's why JP is happily married to Ash after all the Bentley drama on the show. It's why Chris is happily married to Des after the Brooks drama on the show. It's why Cat is happily married to Sean after the ILY to Lindsey on the show. I won't mention the Jason-Molly-Melissa drama. :halo:

Chris & Whitney started life after the show with four days together in Iowa, despite stories to the contrary. Not only did they enjoy producer arranged safe house visits, they had multiple unapproved visits they arranged for themselves. We started hearing reports of Whitney quitting her job or changes with her job in February - after living their new life 3 months after the cameras stopped rolling. They continue to move forward with their life as a couple and are doing so in a loving, mature fashion. To quote Whitney's t-shirt, "positive vibes only".

AllAboutLove wrote:I think that Whitney and Chris have a very good chance of making it, in part because of how the show ended and the F2. Case in point:
- Chris never slept with his F2
- His F2 never told him she was in love with him
- His F2 focused on Chris' feelings even when he dumped her by telling him what a great HUSBAND he will be knowing full well it was Whitney she was referring to
- His F2 told his sisters and mother that Whitney was ready for marriage and babies and thus reminded them of this (and almost pushed Whitney back into the forefront in their minds) because she knew from Whitney herself how much Whitney was in love with Chris (Chris' F2 response at FRC not only supported him but Whitney as well)
- F2 supported Whitney throughout post-show and publicly stated her support and that they are perfect for each other
- IMO only: these steps by the F2 provide a cleaner break for Chris and Whitney as well as a great foundation to move on from despite a 'conflicted Chris' storyline (real or not). Whitney need not worry at all about the F2 and even if made to feel that Chris felt more strongly about the F2 than Whitney herself she doesn't have to worry because it is unrequited and she was chosen and has a ring on it.

Additionally, and perhaps more importantly, Whitney had a strategy going into the show and post show:
- She told Chris she was there for him and only for him
- She focused only on herself and Chris despite the drama or group dates where Britt had Chris' attention she was patient and, even though it hurt, understood what she was getting herself into
- She tooks notes/journal list of top 5, etc... like a game strategy (b/c TB is pretty much just that)
- On ATFR said she only watched her dates with Chris because it was "a game-time decision"
- She said she came to get a proposal from Chris and she never wavered from that even with her sister. She told Chris she wanted that. She told F2 she wanted that. She got the proposal she went on the show for.
- IMO only: Whitney's strategy was supported by the producers and, if there was any type of storyboard it was the producers working to make sure that WHITNEY got her fairytale ending and getting Chris to get onto Whitney's program as well as the producer's program of getting a proposal at the end of the show. Doesn't mean Chris's feelings are fabricated but I personally feel that, given the wedding crashing date was staged and led by Whitney more than Chris (she was/is the leader on the show between them) that it was planned early on that Whitney (likely the ONLY viable proposal-candidate for Chris out of the group since they knew about Jade's past and Becca lived in SD) would be for Chris and the producers did everything to promote and induce a romantic connection between the two even though Chris was into Britt at the beginning they gave Whitney the most fairy-tale-esque dates/mural on the wall/meeting friends (because no rules this season) and touring his home,etc. -- all necessary things that I am sure Whitney wanted and may have talked about herself to producers to prove to Chris she was 'for real' and get him to solidify his feelings for Whitney in his home environment and get the proposal ending they wanted. It was all about Whitney getting to manifest her vision and she said on numerous times "I am Mrs. Soules. I am engaged to Chris" etc.

Whitney is a go-getter and a planner. She strikes me as someone who has a visionary board (literally) and will make that visionary board become a reality. That is a great thing. She is a solution seeker to obstacles and proved this by having a strategy for the show and post-show and even in regards to her job. She found a solution to being able to still work in the field that she is passionate about and do so from any location. The only way I see Chris and Whitney not making it is if Whitney changes her mind about Chris.

JMHO

BKay wrote:

flchica wrote: Chris & Whitney started life after the show with four days together in Iowa, despite stories to the contrary. Not only did they enjoy producer arranged safe house visits, they had multiple unapproved visits they arranged for themselves.

Just to keep it straight in my head, I'm pretty sure I heard Whitney say in an interview that she went to Iowa twice while the show was airing, then they went to Iowa for 4 days after the ATFR. Did anyone else catch that in an interview?

Kashathediva wrote:Not only did they have safe house visits, they also made their own "safe house" visits that were unsanctioned by TPTB at Chris' home in Iowa.

FLChica wrote:And MeandI wanted Nick so much she knocked boots with him in the fantasy suite - before declaring undying love to poor old Josh and accepting that big old Neil Lane ring.  And Des vowed she only loved Brooks - until she accepted Chris's proposal and married him. And Sean told Lindsey, "I love you" - until he proposed to Cat and had their GrownSexy wedding. And Ashley was hopelessly devoted to Bentley and than Ben - until she accepted JP's proposal, married him and had Fordham. 

sde1041 wrote:

FLChica wrote:And MeandI wanted Nick so much she knocked boots with him in the fantasy suite - before declaring undying love to poor old Josh and accepting that big old Neil Lane ring.  And Des vowed she only loved Brooks - until she accepted Chris's proposal and married him. And Sean told Lindsey, "I love you" - until he proposed to Cat and had their GrownSexy wedding. And Ashley was hopelessly devoted to Bentley and than Ben - until she accepted JP's proposal, married him and had Fordham. 

And how many from this list were drooling over their "F2" during an UNEDITED LIVE ATFR,  defending his feelings for her and saying that things could have been different if she had said yes ( even with fiance backstage) ?
Let me count.... Only ONE : Chris S.

And no, it was not chivalry. Let's not forget, this guy wears his heart on his sleeve. He had it so bad for Becca that he couldn't hide it. He let it slip. After that, damage control with his F1.

sde1041 wrote:

FLChica wrote:And MeandI wanted Nick so much she knocked boots with him in the fantasy suite - before declaring undying love to poor old Josh and accepting that big old Neil Lane ring.  And Des vowed she only loved Brooks - until she accepted Chris's proposal and married him. And Sean told Lindsey, "I love you" - until he proposed to Cat and had their GrownSexy wedding. And Ashley was hopelessly devoted to Bentley and than Ben - until she accepted JP's proposal, married him and had Fordham. 

And how many from this list were drooling over their "F2" during an UNEDITED LIVE ATFR,  defending his feelings for her and saying that things could have been different if she had said yes ( even with fiance backstage) ?
Let me count.... Only ONE : Chris S.

And no, it was not chivalry. Let's not forget, this guy wears his heart on his sleeve. He had it so bad for Becca that he couldn't hide it. He let it slip. After that, damage control with his F1.

Kashathediva wrote:How do I know it? It was brought up by CH on the ATFR and discussed.
Personally, I am not here to prove a case.
Future history will show will they make it or not.
Couples have literally lived with each post show and prior to to end up in Quitsville, so I will let the couple's success or failure rest on their shoulders.