Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Fan Forum - General Discussion Thread #3

[stuckinsc]

I'm starting to think what they had was lust not love. I've been a Jodi fan since the first episode but I think once you got past the attraction and obvious chemistry between them what they thought they wanted and what they wanted weren't the same. Also the things that they value in there life weren't matching up. Josh's first priority was family, his family and creating a family with Andi, her first priority was fame and cashing in on it to become a designer, there in 2 different spots in there life and sadly I don't believe they will reconcile

I still hope that they will reconcile and i truly believe that they were in love. I think that when Andi became the Bachelorette, all she wanted was to find love, find a husband and have a family.  That's exactly what Josh wanted then and still wants now. I do think that while Andi wanted a family, she got caught up in the business opportunities that the Bachelorette provided . However,  because i think that they really loved each other, they can fix those things as long as Andi can remember what she wanted on the first place and I'm still hopeful that they get back together.

I have to disagree with your post. I agree that Andi wanted to find love. I think she would be happy to find a husband, but in no way do I think she wanted a family.  I do think that is the thing that drove Andi and Josh apart.  Her own words said she was open to engagement again and again, but as even Jolena and LW heard in AC, Josh was the one who wanted children, Andi just wasn't ready.  That is okay, she should be allowed to wait until she is ready.

She actually didn't even start really talking about kids to FS with Josh when it became obvious that was what Josh wanted. She tried, I give her that, I actually think she did love him and he loved her. But if she isn't ready to have children then I actually admire her for not doing it yet. I have met plenty of children who felt they interfered with their parents life, it isn't fun.

To me it is a show of maturity for Andi to acknowledge that she wasn't ready instead of faking it and trying to make it work.

[GuardianAngel]

I'm starting to think what they had was lust not love. I've been a Jodi fan since the first episode but I think once you got past the attraction and obvious chemistry between them what they thought they wanted and what they wanted weren't the same. Also the things that they value in there life weren't matching up. Josh's first priority was family, his family and creating a family with Andi, her first priority was fame and cashing in on it to become a designer, there in 2 different spots in there life and sadly I don't believe they will reconcile

I still hope that they will reconcile and i truly believe that they were in love. I think that when Andi became the Bachelorette, all she wanted was to find love, find a husband and have a family.  That's exactly what Josh wanted then and still wants now. I do think that while Andi wanted a family, she got caught up in the business opportunities that the Bachelorette provided . However,  because i think that they really loved each other, they can fix those things as long as Andi can remember what she wanted on the first place and I'm still hopeful that they get back together.

In response to your post AM, IMO if she really wanted to settle down get married and have children, nothing would have prevented that. She could do all that and still go after other business opportunities. If she was really truly in love and wanted all those things, she wouldn't have had anything change her mind, family, work, law career, nothing would have stopped her.

Look back at other successful couples, they all had other business opportunities, they all took them and maintained a solid relationship, got married, some have children.

So my point is, she may have wanted all that, but people change their minds and it may not be a priority of hers now especially if those are the things Josh wants. So in other words, there's no reason to get back together.

[AnandaMarie]

I'm starting to think what they had was lust not love. I've been a Jodi fan since the first episode but I think once you got past the attraction and obvious chemistry between them what they thought they wanted and what they wanted weren't the same. Also the things that they value in there life weren't matching up. Josh's first priority was family, his family and creating a family with Andi, her first priority was fame and cashing in on it to become a designer, there in 2 different spots in there life and sadly I don't believe they will reconcile

I still hope that they will reconcile and i truly believe that they were in love. I think that when Andi became the Bachelorette, all she wanted was to find love, find a husband and have a family.  That's exactly what Josh wanted then and still wants now. I do think that while Andi wanted a family, she got caught up in the business opportunities that the Bachelorette provided . However,  because i think that they really loved each other, they can fix those things as long as Andi can remember what she wanted on the first place and I'm still hopeful that they get back together.

In response to your post AM, IMO if she really wanted to settle down get married and have children, nothing would have prevented that. She could do all that and still go after other business opportunities. If she was really truly in love and wanted all those things, she wouldn't have had anything change her mind, family, work, law career, nothing would have stopped her.

Look back at other successful couples, they all had other business opportunities, they all took them and maintained a solid relationship, got married, some have children.

So my point is, she may have wanted all that, but people change their minds and it may not be a priority of hers now especially if those are the things Josh wants. So in other words, there's no reason to get back together.

Sorry, but i disagree and i still think that they should get back together and try to make it work. And i think that most of the successful couples have not spent as much time travelling and accepted as much business opportunities. I listen to Jason and Molly's podcast and they said that the most important thing to do after the show is to get away from the spotlight, to stop doing interview and events and just focus on the relationship. I don't think that Andi and Josh did that as much as they should have, they made mistakes. I hope that time apart makes them realize what is really important in life and makes them realize how much they miss and love each other and get back together.

[Ladybug82]

I agree, GA!  Andi may have wanted it, thought she wanted it or tried to convince herself she did, especially since that was what Josh wanted.  Simply because she wanted Josh.  During they're time together she realized not only was it not what she wanted but there was no deterring or postponing Josh on wanting those things and wanting them now rather than later.

That's fine if she feels that way.  Just as its fine for Josh to want all those things.  But if they are truly that far apart on what they want out of life right now, there is no need for either one to give up their individual dreams to try again.  One would have to totally change what they wanted out of life for the other.   Ultimately ,I believe they would end up resenting each other and that's no way to live.  IMO, it's better to end it now on friendly terms than two years down the road when they hate each other.

AM, As far as other couples, SeanCat survived DWTS.  Jash survived her commuting back and forth to school and him working.  Des and Chris survived that disaster of a season and she moved her whole life to Seattle.  So I believe other lasting couples have dealt with as much or more than Jodi did and managed to get married (well Des and Chris' is coming up soon!) and have kids.

I do wish them both the best as they move forward and on with their lives!

[AnandaMarie]

Sorry you guys but I have a different opinion. I think that their love was special and once in a lifetime and I continue to hope and pray that they get back together and make it work.

[umngirl]

I still hope that they will reconcile and i truly believe that they were in love. I think that when Andi became the Bachelorette, all she wanted was to find love, find a husband and have a family.  That's exactly what Josh wanted then and still wants now. I do think that while Andi wanted a family, she got caught up in the business opportunities that the Bachelorette provided . However,  because i think that they really loved each other, they can fix those things as long as Andi can remember what she wanted on the first place and I'm still hopeful that they get back together.

In response to your post AM, IMO if she really wanted to settle down get married and have children, nothing would have prevented that. She could do all that and still go after other business opportunities. If she was really truly in love and wanted all those things, she wouldn't have had anything change her mind, family, work, law career, nothing would have stopped her.

Look back at other successful couples, they all had other business opportunities, they all took them and maintained a solid relationship, got married, some have children.

So my point is, she may have wanted all that, but people change their minds and it may not be a priority of hers now especially if those are the things Josh wants. So in other words, there's no reason to get back together.

Sorry, but i disagree and i still think that they should get back together and try to make it work. And i think that most of the successful couples have not spent as much time travelling and accepted as much business opportunities. I listen to Jason and Molly's podcast and they said that the most important thing to do after the show is to get away from the spotlight, to stop doing interview and events and just focus on the relationship. I don't think that Andi and Josh did that as much as they should have, they made mistakes. I hope that time apart makes them realize what is really important in life and makes them realize how much they miss and love each other and get back together.

I hate to break it to you, but Sean and Catherine traveled WAY more and had DWTS to keep them apart in the first few months of their relationship. Difference is, they were committed to their relationship and fought to stay together because they loved each other that much. Not to mention they had the same values and goals in their relationship. Let's not pretend Andi and Josh traveled that much. And it was all their decision to do so.

I think this comes down to Andi and Josh wanting different things at this time. Which is fine, but you can't expect your partner to be okay with that. You can love someone but realize you're not meant to be together forever.

[Kashathediva]

We really don't know what their love was or was not.
What we saw on the show was highly edited.
Once they were off the show, what they allowed us to see again was highly edited.
So the only thing I can conclude is in their time together their love was not enough in basically their own words as they chose to go their separate ways.
I hope it was not once in a life time or these guys are going to spending a long time alone. They both deserve happiness and love and by their own admission it was not with each other. So I hope they can move past this as quickly as possible to find what each wants and is happy.

[AnandaMarie]

I think that the problem was not only travelling. I think that Andi's priorities changed and that could have caused the breakup. However, I think that if she realizes how much she loves and misses Josh, it may help her to remember what she wanted in the first place - Love and marriage and i hope that they get back together.

[Alanna]

I think it's kinda funny and strange that Josh fav'd this tonight:

@mrjjobrien: OSU is the @jmurbulldog of this game and the Ducks are everyone else on my season...do they even have a chance? OSU 14 - ORE 7 #TheBachelor

[ThankMeLater]

^ Agreed. They haven't tweeted to eachother in such a long time.

[nannymargie]

I think it's kinda funny and strange that Josh fav'd this tonight:

@mrjjobrien: OSU is the @jmurbulldog of this game and the Ducks are everyone else on my season...do they even have a chance? OSU 14 - ORE 7 #TheBachelor

All the guys knew it was going to be Josh all along.  Maybe Josh favored it to acknowledged he saw the tweet.

[stuckinsc]

I think it's kinda funny and strange that Josh fav'd this tonight:

@mrjjobrien: OSU is the @jmurbulldog of this game and the Ducks are everyone else on my season...do they even have a chance? OSU 14 - ORE 7 #TheBachelor

I think it shows that Josh is reaching back out to appreciate the rips that might have come from his season. JJ was after all very pro-Nick. It is a cute tweet and to me shows Josh getting his humor back to favorite it.

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